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by evilpii
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shadowsfall0 wrote:The idea of a world in which Kagato succeeds or even Kain has crossed my mind several times. I would definitely read that fanfiction if it is produced. :D


Well, I have Washu speculating about that briefly in Homecomings: Masaki, though I have not fleshed it out more. The more I think about it, the more an alternate history aside might be fun. [nagi1]

shadowsfall0 wrote:As for me I need to figure a few things for my current fanfiction project. I actually need to think of an equal experience between Ayeka and Tenchi as there is an experience for Ryoko and Tenchi I have planned. If you guys have any suggestions on that, I would be very open to them cx.


A common tactic used in several stories is to Ayeka's dream of a courtly romance. This would include such tasks as attending formal dinners and the like. Another would be to break her of her regal training slowly. In this case, one might have her date her beau more casually. Okuda's manga gives a very good story in this vein. :Tenchismile:

The main issue here is maintaining Ayeka's character while maturing her relationship with Tenchi. Since her character was meant as a foil to Ryoko's, you might consider Tenchi sharing with Ayeka what he either can't or won't share with Ryoko.

shadowsfall0 wrote:Also Pii I have a few ideas on why Tenchi can't use his material conversion and on how to make a deeper role for Washu.


Lay them on us. [nagi3]

Kiyoka wrote:
shadowsfall0 wrote:The idea of a world in which Kagato succeeds or even Kain has crossed my mind several times. I would definitely read that fanfiction if it is produced. :D


Funny you should say that ;D *ahem* sort of anyay


Yeah, you could say that. Image
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#18570 I just read Homecomings: Masaki and I really loved it! I have to echo the thought of that being its own alternate aside story if it is delved into deeper and such.

The manga really does set up a nice way and bond that Tenchi could have with Ayeka in such a way. And it could fit perfectly into how I'm writing that there are times Tenchi would want alone time with one and not the other and vice versa. During one of these, I could definitely throw in a date, mainly while they are in the Time compressed dimension which is the place he marries them after nearly a year within it(which i have a way of making that work too).

For Washu, I was thinking that she could have the part to play in which They all 3 are in the onsen, (planning this scene) and as Ryoko talks to her, she will open up a LOT about her past and a bit of a...negative modification to Ryoko. In the end that modification didn't work however, seeing as Ryoko by the end of the series in what I have planned, is a child. Washu steps up as well to be a bit of a motherly figure to Ayeka as well.

Mihoshi i have the idea of her getting upset(as would be expected) and she can't look at Tenchi, Ayeka, or Ryoko. Washu and Nobuyuki(who is visiting around this time in what i plan) talk to her, and tell her "Your destiny may have been to meet him then to go foward farther, destiny has an odd way of bring people together, whether it be for love, or for experience and knowledge and encouragement." something like that.


anyway those are a few little tidbits of things I brainstormed haha bth_Ryoko1
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by evilpii
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shadowsfall0 wrote:I just read Homecomings: Masaki and I really loved it! I have to echo the thought of that being its own alternate aside story if it is delved into deeper and such.


I think I now have a concept for how this little side story would go and how to separate it, mostly, from my previous work.

Submitted for your approval, after the events of Tench Muyo! in Love 2 with Haruna, Masaki Tenchi awakes to find the Masaki estate in ruins. The house is gone, the grounds overrun with the encroaching forest, the shrine in shambles. After a moment of shock, he realizes that this is exactly how it all looked when he was being erased by time, yet he isn't being erased. Confused, he roams across the nearby countryside, looking for something familiar, but nearly 30 years of time has worn much of the homestead away.

Except for the yokai cave, which attracts the young man. Entering, he navigates the ancient booby traps to its center, finding a huge green crystal, Washu's exile unit, whole and in tact. With Tenchiken, the prince cuts through the seal and releases her. However, upon meeting her, she has no memory of him or the household. Frustrated and pleading, he describes his version of events, leading her to scan him, finding he is from a different reality parallel to this one. She continues to scan and find the awful truth of what happened in this world gone wrong.

Can Tenchi escape this reality, or should he stay and fix this twisted universe?

In fact, that might be a good title, "A World Gone Wrong" or "Twisted Tenchi Universe". [nagi1] I thought "Tenchi Muyo! in Love 3" might be a good title, but that has been done already. Image

shadowsfall0 wrote:For Washu, I was thinking that she could have the part to play in which They all 3 are in the onsen, (planning this scene) and as Ryoko talks to her, she will open up a LOT about her past and a bit of a...negative modification to Ryoko. In the end that modification didn't work however, seeing as Ryoko by the end of the series in what I have planned, is a child. Washu steps up as well to be a bit of a motherly figure to Ayeka as well.


Washu being a mother figure for Ayeka could work, though in your current setting, Misaki would likely be Ayeka's mother. How would Ayeka react to someone else standing in her mother's place? This can likely be debated considering Misaki and Funaho might have been distant due to their respective positions. This could be interesting depending on how it is written. :Tenchismile:

shadowsfall0 wrote:Mihoshi i have the idea of her getting upset(as would be expected) and she can't look at Tenchi, Ayeka, or Ryoko. Washu and Nobuyuki(who is visiting around this time in what i plan) talk to her, and tell her "Your destiny may have been to meet him then to go foward farther, destiny has an odd way of bring people together, whether it be for love, or for experience and knowledge and encouragement." something like that.


This would be tricky. In OVA, Mihoshi is infatuated with Tenchi, and depending on how she is broached about the others' affections, she might react poorly. I think this is part of Misao's worrying about her in OVA 3, as well as being an insanely obsessive brother. Image Tenchi, Ryoko, and Ayeka might want to consider how to break the news of their mutual arrangements to the others. I do like having Washu and Nobuyuki, both having lost a mate, consoling Mihoshi.

* EDIT: I mistakenly stated that Nobuyuki was also a divorcee. I apologize. Thanks to Nobuyuki for catching my early morning error. ^^;
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by evilpii
#18581
Nobuyuki wrote:
evilpii wrote:> Nobuyuki
> divorcee

No cigar.


I apologize. I had meant to imply that both Washu and Nobuyuki had lost a mate, regardless of the means. -.-
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by evilpii
#19631 Submitted for your approval, I have been tossing back and forth the idea of including Haruna in Homecomings: Masaki for some time, and I have dropped her name at the end of Chapter 2. However, the thought of her appearing outside of a flashback does appeal, given the maturing and reflective themes already in play. Besides, I draw a lot of characterization from TM!iL2 for this story. ^^;

I had thought about having her snatch Tenchi like in the film, though this seemed strange. In the movie, Tenchi ran away from the house to escape Ryoko and Ayeka's pressures of (finally) demanding that he choose. That left him susceptible to Haruna's influence to draw him into her world.

In contrast, the Tenchi I am writing in Masaki is slowly becoming his own man, a husband and father. Quite the contrary, he is embracing his responsibilities and has made his choice, much to the dismay of the one not chosen. In some ways, he is already a stronger person than his counterpart in the film.

So, upon whom would Haruna prey? I was so focused on paralleling TM!iL2 that I neglected this option until I considered it last night.
Consider Ryoko at this point in her life. She is living as lover/spouse to Tenchi, recently borne her first child, and feeling all of those stresses of responsibility she lived so long avoiding. True, she has support in Tenchi and the others in the household, but many young couples, even those who love one another greatly, become strained in the first few years, particularly with a child. Imagine a post-partem Ryoko, disappearing off to the forest to get some quiet from the house.


Enter Haruna. Like in TM!iL2, Haruna would be clinging to this life by her camellia tree, which is beginning to die.
She sees a young woman approaching the prime of her life, wanting freedom from her growing responsibility, a life the late lover of Yosho so desired.


I am still thinking about how the mechanism for Haruna to interact with the cast, but I have the current idea.
Because of the events of Inheritance, Ryoko is tied to Jurai's power and has a crimson gem to focus her powers (a homage to the OVA) given to her by Tsunami. That gem acts essentially like a key, which would allow her control or command a tree.


Haruna would use this device as a gateway, to invade and take this life for her own. Having now a physical form, she would try to claim Tenchi and his son for her own family. How this conflict would progress and be resolved is still in development. ^^;

What are your thoughts on this scheme, as half-baked as it is? ^^;
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#20063 Here is a bit of that little theory I have and how it could apply, should you still go forth on this idea.

After watching through TMIL2 tonight, I came to an interesting conclusion. When Juraians are buried, along with their tree, the tree as well as the soul of the owner may in fact still emit energy. Haruna's tree in the last movie, may have used this as a way to mask itself: to hide in plain sight.

With this, upon Ryu-ohs landing, it may have misjudged the energy emission from the Camellia tree, or it may have been so hidden it couldn't detect it. Perhaps the Naivety of Ryu-oh(as you had as a hypothesis) may in fact be one factor as to why it was not noticed. Perhaps Yosho knew of this already and left it alone since nothing happened since until a fateful day.

Also in terms of them not detecting the "whisking away" of Tenchi, I still find it that the rest of the Camellias may have been used as decoy signals. Not only confusing Ryu-oh but if it figured it as a threat; made it impossible to sort out the right one. Yosho even could not recognize that it was strange, until he noticed Haruna's tree was blooming out of season.

Now how this could apply to your fanficton idea.^^

The same principles of bending things but not completely deviating from what is possible, is what can apply here. Having Haruna come in as being one to possess Ryoko, traditional Japanese ghost style, could apply to their being her tree, though dormant or masking itself with knowing Juraians would put off energy from burials as a norm.

Having her come in this way and planning things the way you have in order for her to do as she wishes to, could really work out in its own way, its the fact of making it solid as a starting point that will really be the catch.

(P.S.) Ayeka not noticing the energy may in fact be one reason that perhaps the masking is done in an invisible low energy output way, rather than feeling the energy of Haruna's tree, since that would spark her to ask if a Juraian was buried there.
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by evilpii
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shadowsfall0 wrote:Here is a bit of that little theory I have and how it could apply, should you still go forth on this idea.

After watching through TMIL2 tonight, I came to an interesting conclusion. When Juraians are buried, along with their tree, the tree as well as the soul of the owner may in fact still emit energy. Haruna's tree in the last movie, may have used this as a way to mask itself: to hide in plain sight.


That could work, though one wonders if Haruna was so organized to diffuse purposefully her essence. The general feeling I got from Haruna was that she was desperate on some levels. I am leaning toward Haruna's tree being too weak or disinterested to network with other trees.

I had been chatting with Chuck about whether or not the Juraian trees "ping" one another. If they are all connected to Tsunami, one wonders if they actively or passively detect one another. The general consensus seems to be that they may not. If so, then Ryu-Oh might not have sensed the camellia or Funaho.

shadowsfall0 wrote:The same principles of bending things but not completely deviating from what is possible, is what can apply here. Having Haruna come in as being one to possess Ryoko, traditional Japanese ghost style, could apply to their being her tree, though dormant or masking itself with knowing Juraians would put off energy from burials as a norm.

Having her come in this way and planning things the way you have in order for her to do as she wishes to, could really work out in its own way, its the fact of making it solid as a starting point that will really be the catch.


Now, this might work better since after Haruna has her goal (a second life) in sight, she will protect it. Perhaps rather than planning ahead of time to use her camellia and its offspring in this malevolent way, it happens as a secondary action, when she is fully or partially discovered. Much like how she kicked Ryoko and Ayeka out of her parallel world, Haruna might show her more forceful side when cornered or threatened outright.