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- January 8, 2015 at 10:50 PM
In discussions, reading, and watching videos, it occurs that those with Royal Trees or have Juraian power inside them, are not really looked in-depth. In recent Ai events, I wish to discuss and analyze the people, the abilities and uses of Juraian powers in Tenchi. soawesome1 Any Tenchi series or literature is valid, please reference them and identify where they are from.
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- January 8, 2015 at 11:02 PM
I like the idea of this thread. Tenchismile However, there are already a couple threads already in existence for this: the and theTrees thread . Now, I had thought to start a thread about aspects of Jurai’s power, though all three of these topics are rather intertwined. Perhaps this thread could discuss what marvels Jurai’s power could do independently of the trees or keys?Keys threadqt1 -
- January 9, 2015 at 5:34 AM
In Tenchi Universe, Yosho and Kagato in ep 23, fighting with their keys without their Royal Trees near them. Also in Tenchi Muyo in Love! Tenchi and Achika fought with the master Key in a dimension trap, cut off from everything else. When Achika started to “feel” Kain in the movie, she started to wake up her powers rapidly causing a waves of force. In the recent Tenchi Muyo Ai, Momo possibly used her powers in ep 34 without key or Royal Tree to back her up. It might be possible that whoever bonded with a Royal Tree or has Juraian power in their ancestry, can perform acts with their power, just need something to back (Trees) them up and hone (Keys) themselves. -
- January 9, 2015 at 9:45 AM
The “powers of Jurai” is a nebulous term depending on which continuity you consider. Here, I will focus primarily on the OVA, Universe, and Ai Tenchistorylines. If someone would like to speak to Jurai’s abilities in Tokyo, I would welcome what you have to contribute. Tenchismile Also,Pretty Sammycould be considered, but such discussion might be best relegated to .another subforumblush1 OVAIn the OVA, the powers of a Juraian noble have often been said to be directly tied to a partnered tree. In particular, Kagato states in series 1 episode 6 that the master key is merely a tool to tap energy from the ship.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/kagato-tenchi1_zpsc3e0a7cb.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/kagato-tenchi2_zps3cb7067a.png " /> Keep in mind that the
Sojacut off power from Tsunamiand seemingly all other external sources. http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/kagato-tenchi3_zps93685e3c.png " /> This is a very important point that is referenced again in series 2 episode 4 when Washu is discussing the Light Hawk Wings with Tenchi.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/washu_zpsd08456f0.png " /> With all external power sources cut off, the Light Hawk Wings manifested in Tenchi’s battle with Kagato could only have come from Tenchi himself, not Tsunami, Ryu-Oh, Funaho, or any other source.
Yet, there is a problem. After Kagato says Tenchiken is useless, Tenchi forms a blade with it and comes straight at him. If all the power from Tsunami and the other trees has been cut off, and the sword is useless without its tree, how is Tenchi manifesting a blade? Moreover, how is Ayeka able to use all her abilities, such as flight and energy blasts, on
Sojaas well? One would believe that Ayeka’s tiara, Ryu-Oh’s key, should follow the same governing principles as Tenchiken. Shouldn’t her powers fail aboard Sojawhen separated from Ryu-Oh, which presumably was just destroyed? There are a couple options here. In one case, Kagato is mistaken, and all external power sources were not completely cut off. However, this would contradict Washu’s statement in series 2. Thus, the other case is more likely true, that all external power sources were cut off.
Then, that would imply that Tenchi and Ayeka’s abilities, Tenchiken in particular, must have been fuelled by something on
Soja. One could say that the two gems in Tenchiken could power it. This has some footing since series 2 episode 6 goes at length to state the the gems have kept Katsuhito young, the tree Funaho alive, and could create the Light Hawk Wings on their own. http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/yosho1_zpsad21c569.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/yosho2_zps22d3431e.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/funaho1_zps1768eeb3.png " /> Unfortunately, this does not explain Ayeka, who was battling on
Sojabefore Tenchi brought the sword with the gems. One might argue that Ayeka somehow bootstrapped her power from the gem(s) Ryoko had on her, or even the Soja‘s power source. However, that gets increasingly more difficult to justify with the anime giving no justification for such. Another recourse would be to say that Tenchi and Ayeka’s battle costumes had some sort of internal power supply, independent of the trees or keys, that provide them with their combative abilities. However, this becomes troublesome when Tenchi and Ayeka both basically fought in the nude in series 1 episode 4.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/ayeka2_zps02d47dce.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/tenchi1_zps3c11312d.png " /> At this point, Ryu-Oh is at the bottom of the lake, and both trees Funaho and Ryu-Oh are miles away. If either Tenchi or Ayeka is tapping a tree for power, they have a significant range for doing so. I, for one, am dubious of that case.
Frankly, I would theorize that Tenchi and Ayeka both have some native “Jurai power”, not unlike in
Universe, something that is intrinsic to them and cannot be taken away by the Soja‘s shielding or removal of items. What thoughts do you have on the subject?
UniverseIn
Universe, the power of Jurai is elaborated upon several times in the TV series. The first time it is addressed directly is episode 15, where both Ayeka and the Juraian agent explain the gist of what the power is: an immense mystical power used only by Jurai’s nobility. http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/agent1_zps71e318c7.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/agent2_zps0453fe54.png " /> Moreover, he states that the power can surpass the power of a god, something Kagato reiterates in episode 23.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/agent3_zpsa26fbb4a.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/kagato-throne_zpsff7ac5d0.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/duel1_zpsd44ba83e.png " /> Ayeka also states in the “Legend of the Two Knights” that said knights were so powerful as to shatter stars themselves.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/staircase1_zpsfd22177d.png " /> As one might imagine, the power is hereditary, as explicitly stated in
TMiL1. http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/inheritance1_zps6adb92e5.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/inheritance2_zpsc56d2091.png " /> Hence, the power and its manifestations seem to be individualized from person to person. With training and practice, several characters have expressed the ability to improve their mastery in its use. Ayeka first mentions the idea in the opening of episode 16.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/mastery_zps974c33b5.png " /> However, Kagato and his dark knights reiterate this fact in episodes 23 and 25.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/kagato1_zps9abac9c0.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/tessei1_zps69ea7455.png " /> At the same time, Jurai’s power can also be enhanced and tainted to become more dangerous and deadly. Kagato goes at length on the subject in episode 23, how he suffered in the “darkness of the universe” to achieve his seemingly eternal youth and power. I also find it likely that Tetta and Tessei might have also tasted such a dark amplification as well.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/kagato2_zps24bf2b61.png " /> Also, overuse or misuse of Juraian energy can apparently be deadly as well. In
TMiL1, Washu states that the Jurai emperor who imprisoned Kain died from expelling the energy to achieve that feat. http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/washu-emperor1_zps39e33974.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/washu-emperor2_zpsd393d274.png " /> Likewise, Tenchi muses about this perhaps being why his mother died young in the epilogue to the film.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/lifespan_zpsef0a680a.png " /> Similarly, there was great concern about Tenchi’s health in
TMiL2, where Haruna seems to be draining his power to maintain her parallel world. Washu states he is becoming weaker, but moreover, he himself seems progressively more sluggish and tired as the film progresses. http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/weaker_zpsc4de2195.png " /> The first film
TMiL1also introduces the idea of an antithesis to Jurai’s power in Kain. http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/kain_zps32fab79c.png " /> His origin is left mysterious, other than his rampage and capture 100 years prior to the the present of the film. The operative states that Kain’s goal was to eliminate all of those who hold the opposing power.
While the trees are not heavily emphasized in the TV series, they are referenced in the movies. Please see the
for more.Trees ThreadTenchismile Several keys are shown in
Universe, but I will shunt discussion of the keys to the .Keys ThreadTenchismile Ukinojo92 wrote:Any case on Jurai powers in play are all accepted, although to my knowledge have there been uses of Jurai power without keys or Royal Trees in proximity?
woooo1 Ukinojo92 wrote:Also in Tenchi Muyo in Love! Tenchi and Achika fought with the master Key in a dimension trap, cut off from everything else.
To answer your initial question, our yielded the perfect example of someone utilizing Jurai’s power without a tree or a key, Masaki Achika fromprevious discussionTMiL1. Not unlike Tenchi in OVA series 1 episode 6, Achika was isolated in a subspace dimension with Kain. She had no tree, no key, and no outside power source. Everything she did before Tenchi arrived was purely her power. Ai TenchiIn
Ai Tenchi, there is less total lore given about Jurai, but as a celebration of the franchise, much of said lore is assumed from the previous series combined. Momo generates personal barriers at different points in the series, much like Ayeka, first shown in episode 8.
Arguably, either she or Tenchi created this barrier in episode 34.
Momo also knocked Beni back in episode 54 when the pink-haired one started to vanish.
Ukinojo92 wrote:In the recent Tenchi Muyo Ai, Momo possibly used her powers in ep 34 without key or Royal Tree to back her up.
To your question, one does wonder if this ability was intrinsic to her or a product of either Toshika or her sword. I would argue that it would not be her sword as episode 54 shows her create the barrier before Tenchi returns her key. Since Toshika was under the ground the entire time, it is a bit harder to rule the tree out completely.An honorable mention goes to Ayeka, who also demonstrated a new ability to use her mini-guardians as turrets in episode 41.
fyeah1 For the tree Toshika’s appearance, please see the
.Trees ThreadTenchismile For Momo and Tenchi’s use of their swords, please see the
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- January 9, 2015 at 6:18 PM
For the guardians and or Jurai protection bots, will have to be left for another topic because they might have own internal power source and technology that needs to be discussed in a different manner. Azaka and Kamidake Guardians bots are separated from Ryo-Oh and still active and independent in the OVA’s, Universe, Tokyo, and Ai. In Tokyo there were some Guardians, underground in Yugi’s prison still active and independent of any Juraian or Tree on earth. Also Ayeka has used her Mini-guardians several times in each series without her ship, I believe they also carry a internal source just commanded by her tiara finely. There might be something in Manga that is being left or maybe the untranslated LN’s could provide more light on this subject.
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- January 9, 2015 at 7:22 PM
In the discussion I have come up with a theory that Juraians have power, just have a limit to how much they can do, but in a dire emergency however they can summon all of their power and sometimes more quickly. When they summon the power without a backup to Tree or a Key to hone it, they risk the danger of harming themselves. In Achika is an example of that, in Tenchi’s, Momo’s, Ayeka’s, and Yosho’s case however it is unclear, they might use their powers to the point it exhausts them. I view the keys and Trees as peripherals, the Trees with the large amount of power and abilities, and the keys to access and regulate the power as well as any other function they may serve. -
- January 9, 2015 at 7:53 PM
I wonder if the presence of Sasami and the fact that she and Tsunami are merged should be taken into account as another explanation as to why Aeka and Tenchi are able to access their powers in certain cases.Just a theory.
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- January 9, 2015 at 8:18 PM
Ukinojo92 wrote:For the guardians and or Jurai protection bots, will have to be left for another topic because they might have own internal power source and technology that needs to be discussed in a different manner. Azaka and Kamidake Guardians bots are separated from Ryo-Oh and still active and independent in the OVA’s, Universe, Tokyo, and Ai.
I would agree that the guardians would have their own power supply, independent of Ryu-Oh or Ayeka. While their inner workings are not detailed in any continuity to my knowledge, Universe does shed a little light on them. Ayeka states in episode 22 that the guardians were evidently programmed with the personalities of the two knights. This implies they were manufactured.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/ayeka1_zpsc27f3d86.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/ayeka2_zpsf718cb05.png " /> Moreover, she later explains that they expelled all their energy in the resurrection of the two knights, meaning that whatever power system they have, it is finite and can be completely emptied.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/ayeka3_zps27e92cc1.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/ayeka4_zpsf3fba238.png " /> This is emphasized when Ayeka mourns their passing. Considering their presence in her childhood flashbacks, they were likely in her life for a substantial amount of time and meant a great deal to her. Thankfully, they were resuscitated in episode 26 by Washu, Kiyone, and Mihoshi. Hence, their power system can also be refilled and reactivated without lasting damage.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/guardians1_zps9acc62b0.png " /> http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/guardians2_zps446c9a7f.png " /> However, what Washu did to achieve this is not detailed in the series epilogue.
Ukinojo92 wrote:In Tokyo there were some Guardians, underground in Yugi’s prison still active and independent of any Juraian or Tree on earth.
The old guardians fromTokyoepisode 9 are an interesting note unto themselves. They rested underground for 3500 years before Amagasaki woke them up, still viable after all that time. They also show that not only do other guardians exist other than Azaka and Kamidake, but that their designs have changed over time. Notably, Ayeka recognizes that they are very old models. Ukinojo92 wrote:Also Ayeka has used her Mini-guardians several times in each series without her ship, I believe they also carry a internal source just commanded by her tiara finely.
Ayeka’s mini-guardians are never really explained. Consider she can manifest them seemingly whenever she needs them, I had always assumed they were a creation of her own. If someone has more data on them, let me know.Ukinojo92 wrote:In the discussion I have come up with a theory that Juraians have power, just have a limit to how much they can do, but in a dire emergency however they can summon all of their power and sometimes more quickly. When they summon the power without a backup to Tree or a Key to hone it, they risk the danger of harming themselves. In Achika is an example of that, in Tenchi’s, Momo’s, Ayeka’s, and Yosho’s case however it is unclear, they might use their powers to the point it exhausts them.
I could agree with this assessment, that Juraians have a wellspring of power, but diving too deeply is dangerous. If Jurai’s power is actually tied to their lifeforce, that might explain why overuse can be deadly. Even then, it is possible that utilizing a supernatural power like this one puts a strain on the body, or even the mind, which can be detrimental in large doses. This would be an interesting topic if one were to discuss Jurai’s medicinal sciences.Tenchismile Ukinojo92 wrote:I view the keys and Trees as peripherals, the Trees with the large amount of power and abilities, and the keys to access and regulate the power as well as any other function they may serve.
I could get behind this theory, particularly since it agrees with the use of the keys in the OVA andAi Tenchi. mitsuki lover wrote:I wonder if the presence of Sasami and the fact that she and Tsunami are merged should be taken into account as another explanation as to why Aeka and Tenchi are able to access their powers
in certain cases.Just a theory.
I don’t see how Sasami’s connection to Tsunami has any relevance to the events aboard theSoja. Sasami was on board the ship Tsunami, and both Kagato and Washu explicitly state that all power from the Tsunamihad been cut off. Please see the discussion in the .earlier post -
- January 9, 2015 at 9:34 PM
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Ukinojo92 wrote:Also Ayeka has used her Mini-guardians several times in each series without her ship, I believe they also carry a internal source just commanded by her tiara finely.”
Ayeka’s mini-guardians are never really explained. Consider she can manifest them seemingly whenever she needs them, I had always assumed they were a creation of her own. If someone has more data on them, let me know.
Going a little off topic, speculation: In OVA 1 ep 2, the Guardians teleported or phase in when Ayeka calls them to attack Tenchi, and the Mini-guardians appear in a similar manner. Somewhere in Tenchi GXP it was mentioned that Royal Tree ship could create a subspace areas in itself or something. I theorize that Ayeka created or access a space where she can call on her M-g’s with her tiara, as for Azaka and Kamidake it could be possible they were summoned the same way but need more evidence.
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- January 9, 2015 at 9:50 PM
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Ukinojo92 wrote:In the discussion I have come up with a theory that Juraians have power, just have a limit to how much they can do, but in a dire emergency however they can summon all of their power and sometimes more quickly. When they summon the power without a backup to Tree or a Key to hone it, they risk the danger of harming themselves. In Achika is an example of that, in Tenchi’s, Momo’s, Ayeka’s, and Yosho’s case however it is unclear, they might use their powers to the point it exhausts them.”
I could agree with this assessment, that Juraians have a wellspring of power, but diving too deeply is dangerous. If Jurai’s power is actually tied to their lifeforce, that might explain why overuse can be deadly. Even then, it is possible that utilizing a supernatural power like this one puts a strain on the body, or even the mind, which can be detrimental in large doses.
I think Azaka and Kamidake warriors are unique cases to this discussion. They do not have Trees themselves, but they have power, not only that but have a high aptitude for on use and strength of that power they have. Being legendary warriors they are the best and strongest out of every normal Jurai soldier or warrior, but also having the experience, knowledge, and endurance to use their mastered powers at high levels in any situation. Although this is speculation as we do not see them use their powers in any other situation then battle.
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- January 9, 2015 at 9:54 PM
Ukinojo92 wrote:Going a little off topic, speculation: In OVA 1 ep 2, the Guardians teleported or phase in when Ayeka calls them to attack Tenchi, and the Mini-guardians appear in a similar manner. Somewhere in Tenchi GXP it was mentioned that Royal Tree ship could create a subspace areas in itself or something.
Admittedly, the main action of series 1 episode 2 is aboard
Ryu-Oh, so Azaka and Kamidake’s sudden teleport could be explained by Ryu-Oh‘s internal workings. She does have an active teleportation system in both Universeepisode 2 and OVA series 1 episode 5. Ukinojo92 wrote:I theorize that Ayeka created or access a space where she can call on her M-g’s with her tiara, as for Azaka and Kamidake it could be possible they were summoned the same way but need more evidence.
In the OVA, that would work up until Ryu-Oh is destroyed in series 1 episode 5. However, Ayeka uses her mini-guardians against Kagato in series 1 episode 6, holding him for Ryoko to drop a stone pillar upon him. As mentioned above, all outside power sources had been cut off, which would include Ryu-Oh. Hence, Ryu-Oh holding and releasing the mini-guardians from a pocket dimension does not fit with episode 6. Again, I believe the mini-guardians are a trait of Ayeka herself.In
Universe, where Ayeka’s connection with Ryu-Oh seems less prominent, there is not really any evidence one way or the other. Likewise, Ai Tenchidoes not reference Ryu-Oh at all, so who is to say how Ayeka creates them there? -
- January 9, 2015 at 10:12 PM
Ukinojo92 wrote:I think Azaka and Kamidake warriors are unique cases to this discussion. They do not have Trees themselves, but they have power, not only that but have a high aptitude for on use and strength of that power they have.
If one looks closely at Azaka and Kamidake’s resting place, besides being an awesome design for a Juraian crypt, there are two immense trees on either side of the central tree Katsuhito uses to resurrect the two knights.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/graveyard_zpsec2c53ad.png " /> Could these two be the trees paired with the knights? Considering their age from their height and gnarled features, they may well have stood for centuries, perhaps millennia, watching over the knights as they slept.
gendo1 However, this is just a speculation on my part.blush1 Ukinojo92 wrote:Being legendary warriors they are the best and strongest out of every normal Jurai soldier or warrior, but also having the experience, knowledge, and endurance to use their mastered powers at high levels in any situation. Although this is speculation as we do not see them use their powers in any other situation then battle.
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- January 9, 2015 at 11:02 PM
Quote:I believe the mini-guardians are a trait of Ayeka herself
Going on that logic, it would make sense. She would have the power and her tiara could manifest them into any kind she wants, she usually makes a defensive barrier or capture. However in Ai she is seen on the aggressive side and used them to attack. Also I believe she made a small teleport guardian to keep Ryoko out of Tenchi’s room in Night before the Carvinal OVA. Unless she had that in her luggage already when her ship crashed.
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Ukinojo92 wrote:I theorize that Ayeka created or access a space where she can call on her M-g’s with her tiara, as for Azaka and Kamidake it could be possible they were summoned the same way but need more evidence.”
In the OVA, that would work up until Ryu-Oh is destroyed in series 1 episode 5.
How is their appearance in Ai explained then. She had no ship or Tree, and she was in another Universe.
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- January 10, 2015 at 12:09 AM
Ukinojo92 wrote:Also I believe she made a small teleport guardian to keep Ryoko out of Tenchi’s room in Night before the Carvinal OVA. Unless she had that in her luggage already when her ship crashed.
The device to which you refer would be this little alarm gadget.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/device_zps993fc6f8.png " /> As a point of fact, in OVA series 1 episode 3, Ryoko is rummaging through Ayeka’s belongings for the sword.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/ryoko1_zps8b5a3dd8.png " /> Apparently, she did get some of her luggage off the ship before it sank into the lake, so it is likely the alarm might have already existed in her belongings. Likewise, there are some Juraian-styled devices in the carrot garden in series 1 episode 5.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/garden_zpse7ad263d.png " /> Their purpose is not elaborated in the episode, but I would expect Ayeka had some of these from Ryu-Oh’s gardens.
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Ukinojo92 wrote:I theorize that Ayeka created or access a space where she can call on her M-g’s with her tiara, as for Azaka and Kamidake it could be possible they were summoned the same way but need more evidence.”
In the OVA, that would work up until Ryu-Oh is destroyed in series 1 episode 5.
How is their appearance in Ai explained then. She had no ship or Tree, and she was in another Universe.
Ayeka’s mini-guardians are not explained at all inAi Tenchi. Again, Ai Tenchidoes not delve heavily into backstory for the main cast. While Ayeka is confirmed to be the crown princess of Jurai in the biographical material on the (official Ai Tenchi site ), from where she derives her power is left open. One can likely assume that the source of her abilities is likely Juraian in origin, not unlike either the OVA ortranslationUniverse. -
- January 10, 2015 at 4:13 AM
From what I gather so far, the basic abilities of those with the Power of Jurai (Not Tainted like Kagato in Universe) are: Firing energy ball (Ayeka: Tenchi Universe [With help of Tiara key, possible trees or self])
(Yosho: Tenchi Universe [possible key or self])
Barrier {to capture or defense} (Momo: Tenchi Muyo Ai [ Not sure of key or tree support, possible])
(Ayeka: OVA, Universe, movies [with support of Mini guardians or self in Tokyo])
Waves of Force (Achika: Tenchi Muyo in Love [No key or tree])
(Ayeka: Universe [With help of tiara key, possible tree help])
Energy sword: (Tenchi: Universe, OVA’s, Movie’s [with help of key])
(Achika: Tenchi Muyo in Love [with help of key])
(Yosho: OVA 1, Universe, Midsummer’s eve, Tenchi Muyo In Love 2 [with help of key])
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- January 12, 2015 at 9:19 PM
Quote:Nil wrote:Similarly, in Kajishima’s novels he seems to only include nobility in the list of eligible Jurians for pairing with a tree. We only get to see them a handful of times, including the death of Mitsuki Amaki, but the trees with power appear to be inaccessible to civilians. This is cross-referenced between both sets of novels in stating that by pairing with a tree, it extends the Jurian Royalty’s lifespan by a considerable amount. Referring back to Hasegawa’s novels, she claims that the average Jurian’s lifespan was around 200 years, whereas a Jurian Royal would be granted 10 times that, often living upwards of 2,000 years.
So in short a Juraian would have a average lifespan of 200 years and those that have would live about 2000 or so.
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- January 13, 2015 at 6:56 AM
evilpii’s postGoing on Juraian limitations, it is possible to in a way wear down someone with the power of Jurai with tremendous force or attrition. Ayeka in ep 9 of Tokyo casts a shield but then is worn down by the old Guardians, and again in OVA ep 12 when being sucked into a black hole and finally gives. I would name Tenchi, but Ayeka is more experienced and familiar with powers than Tenchi is in all continuities.
gendo1 The evidence from Tokyo would support the notion of Momo self generating a shield as Ayeka does that herself without Mini-guardians in ep 9
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- January 15, 2015 at 11:04 PM
A thought occurred while watching Tenchi in Tokyo! Can Yugi be considered for those with a power of Jurai? It is said in the anime she was a mutant, but could use the power of Jurai in a tremendous way. gendo1 Also in ep 21 of Tenchi in Tokyo sub, Washu mention something about Juraitrium 7000, only occurring from those from Jurai. It begs the question if it is only what naturally occurs in those born on Jurai, or if it is the signature of ones with power of Jurai.
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- January 21, 2015 at 2:42 AM
In Tenchi In Toyko, it was said Queen Hinase used her arcanepowers to seal up Yugi 3500 years before the events of Tokyo. A question is can the power of Jurai be used in another manner than others and only unique to the person using?, or was it called arcane because the full potential of the power of Jurai was not fully comprehended at the time and she was just ahead of her time? gendo1 -
- January 24, 2015 at 6:09 AM
Tenchi Muyo GXP anime, Seina Yamada had access the power of Jurai in a random, spontaneous, and unclear way. The situation he was in: he was commandeering an ancient robot referenced from Dual! that had a 1st gen Royal Tree seed, had a Cabbit created by Washu; Fuku, and clones. Also his ship, the Kamidake created by Washu all used in a few hours for a fast and massive attacks while defying some laws of nature, maybe, and just got exhausted in the end, he should have been dead from the experience. While Seina doesn’t have special Juraian powers or the power of Jurai, he still in a way used a Royal Tree and harness it’s power. So in a way he is valid in this thread until fully proven otherwise. As GXP anime has some flaws, it is the only place I can gather info until GXP novels are translated.
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