Marriage Equality

A very simple act that the State of Ohio wouldn’t allow,so he took it all the way up to the supreme

court.

Sometimes it is the little things that lead to big changes.

BTW: The first step for Marriage Equality was won in the 1960s when the then Scotus ruled that

Virginia’s laws that were then on the books banning interracial marriage were unconstitutional.

I thought it was Love(which would be ironic enough).

So the backwash is starting with some county clerks refusing to give out licenses to gay couples in certain

of the Bible Belt States.

I don’t know that the Religious Liberty line is a good one to take though,though I do have to admit that when we had the referendum here in Washington State it was the only reason why I voted

NO.

OTOH I can say all of the doom and gloom that was predicted by the NO side has not come to fruition, and if,knowing what I know now, I could go back and do the whole vote over I would

vote a solid YES instead(live and learn).

I think though it is funny that the people who keep arguing for limited government in everything else

some how are the ones who want to regulate marriage.

we’re more exposed to them in what we choose to watch.

but you might try googling the Spokesnan Review for Friday August 14 and see if it’s still available

to be read online.

The two points I like to make about this whole thing is:

1. as a government official the county clerk took an oath to follow and obey all the laws of the land,including those that she may disagree with.In other words she can’t pick and choose which law

she’ll obey and which she won’t.She isn’t a private citizen but a government employee.

2.More importantly though I am tired of people using religion as an excuse all the time.

Stop saying it’s against your religion and instead show us in the Bible where it says so!

Or at least a passage or verse that contains some type of principle involved that would at least

back up what you’re saying.

Oh…as far as that baker in Colorado…I think it was because he broke the State anti-discrimination laws.

let her continue until her lawyers can finish working on their brief.Which means no-one in Rowan county can get married unless they go to another county first to get a license.

This is reminding me too much of the bad old days during the Civil Rights Movement when

segregationists would use the Bible and Religion as an excuse.

And an interesting twist to the Oregon bakery case: apparently the bakery in question is now sending

out cakes to various gay groups along with an evangelistic film and $25 resturant gift cards supplied by the producer of the film(a New Zealand evangelist who is also known for his anti-evolution

activity).The bakery claims it’s an act of love but at least one of the receipents claim it’s just a

publcity stunt.

from today’s Spokesman Review page A6.

In the meantime four couples are suing the Rowan co.Kentucky Clerk for not doing her duty and issuing marriage licenses. Two are straight and two are gay.

Since other parts of the country have had no problem with adjusting to the new reality,I really have to think that someone wants their 15 minutes of fame to last a bit longer.

She still refuses to give out licenses even after loosing in the Supreme Court( they declined on the matter of the Stay).

I think she should actually stop talking and go back and read what St.Paul says about obeying

the authorities in Romans 12.

btw: She makes $80,000 a year if anyone’s interested.

This is getting ridiculous plus as a Christian she’s making a really bad witness to the non-Christians around her.

The thing is to try and listen to what the other side has to say without being judgemental about

their view or overrighteous about your own.

What it comes down to is, as some of the presidential candidates have said, the United States is a country of laws.Our law is based on two things: the Bible* and the U.S. Constitution. Under the

latter everyone who is either a citizen or legal resident has the same rights as everyone else,

unless they commit a crime.

This means that no matter what you feel about LGBTQ people they like the rest of us have the same Constitutional rights.

We may disagree with Same Sex Marriage but we cannot deny the fact that Same Sex couples have the same constitutional rights as opposite sex couples.

* I’m talking about the fact here that much of our common law comes from the Bible. Of course

if I’m wrong about this I’m sure that Chuck whenever he has the time to post again might be willing to correct me on the matter.

Not matter what you think of Marriage Equality, the fact is that when the Constitution says:

“We The People of the United States”, it means everyone who is a citizen or legal resident.

This means that all laws apply equally to everyone.

btw: I goofed again when I said that Rowan co. Kentucky was the only place where Marriage Equality

was hitting a bump,the fact is there are other parts of the country where that has happened as well

but Rowan co. Kentucky seems to just have gotten the spotlight.

marriage licenses,she also lost her last appeal so that hopefully is that.

Interesting factoid is that it appears the majority of same sex couples who have been applying for marriage licenses have been together much longer than Ms Davis’ marriages have lasted.

That’s one interesting thing about all this: a lot of these same sex couples who are now tying the knot have been together for over a decade or more. So I think that that shows they do have

a commitment to each other that their opponents sometimes overlook.

Though I always thought that Australia was a bit more liberal than the U.S. and so would have

marriage equality before us.

btw: nice to be talking about the subject without having to mention Kim Davis again.

licenses. Most of these aren’t young people, some of them are in their 40s or 50s. So it shows, again, that they do have commitment to each other to stay together to ‘death do us part’. I think this is something that opponents of Marriage Equality should really consider the next time they try to say

it’s an attack on traditional marriage and American values.

Isn’t this what marriage is supposed to be all about…two people in love committing themselves to each other for a lifetime?

marriage is for one man and one woman only doesn’t work all the time.(His short marriage was rather miserable.)

Rowan co. Kentucky.

leaders saying in a speech:

” On the big issues- both sides should seek a balance, not a total victory.

For example religionists should not seek a veto over all non-discrimination laws that offend their

religion, and the proponents of non-discrimination should not seek a veto over all assertions of

of religious freedom.”

gays in the LDS church. Apparently now they won’t even allow infants of gay Mormons to get blessed or 8 year olds to get baptized.

One step forward and two backward for them.