Comiket 86: 14.8 and IF II

The subtitle tells me that much.

This will probably sound a bit meam but I think that makes me just slightly more excited for Ai. I’m not really a fan of the setting but hey! I’ll take what I can get.

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As long as Tenchi has all girls and Seina has all boys, it’ll work out.

This is how I’m feeling right now. Ever since I learned about the so-called “Tenchi Solution”, I’ve been kind of wary about the franchise/series. I mean I thought the whole “marry everyone” was kind of goofy, but literally just everyone having sex with each other and their kids having sex with each other and…jesus man. I mean all these years I’ve really ignored the incest coming from the whole Jurai side of things just because…well…you know. But even the plots in the official releases suffer, OVA3 was really a chance to return to form and instead we just got some overly complex sci-fi nonsense and a slew of characters that nobody really cares about.

I won’t knock you if you like it, but I suppose I’m just a different kind of Tenchi fan.

I think this is the truest of words ever spoken.

It’s not prophetic if you mention it AFTER it gets announced. I’d go so far as to say it is almost as if no one would want the OVA to actually continue or follow the adventures of Tenchi’s offspring.

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Yeah, cause NOTHING like this has ever happened in the history of mankind. ^_~

…to put it bluntly, cabbit/human children in an incest-ridden polygamist compound is not what I signed up for in the summer of ’00. If that’s your cup of tea, fine, I won’t try to belittle anyone or knock it as inferior. It’s just not Tenchi for me.

Yeah, ’cause there was no incest nor polygamy in OVA 1 or OVA 2. ^_~

Kidding aside, thanks to all who’ve provided the images. I’m looking forward to seeing more of the fun.

I count AI as the “another” spin-off.

I’d go so far as to say it is almost as if no one would want the OVA to actually continue or follow the adventures of Tenchi’s offspring.

Probably the reason that Ai is being made in the first place and the kids and their lives are only being used in “what if” scenario doujins.

Besides there is no story to tell, all they do is grow up, and that is hilariously boring coming from Tenchi’s past of space travel and galactic gods, and even if there was any conflict that might arise to keep us interested, the suspension of disbelief is gone when one of the aunt’s can literally will that person out of existence.

So the OVA literally has nothing left to do, scratch that, it had plenty of things they COULD have done, but can no longer do because of the current state of the household.

Kajishima got what he wanted in the end, he wanted to end the “goddess arc” as it were and literally erase conflict from the main cast OVA continuity, and he did, and he’ll probably never get another anime contract because of it.

What is a slice of life, Alex?
Do not forget Tenchi is essentially a God at this point. There is no one above him, and everyone is now below him. With that in mind and saying we might never get another Kajishima anime contract, we all might as well call it GG and go play with our not-internet friends.

Come on now. Between hearing clamoring of rebooting and wanting the main continuity to end, people seem like they shouldn’t care about Kajishima’s work, but here we are discussing his newest doujins on the very same board where such opinions take root. You’re essentially saying there should be no more possibility of WoG continuations, no new anime for any new characters he adds, or anything of the like.

In the end, it is a conundrum that will never be solved. Perhaps it should be for the best he stops making doujins and letting the Tenchi franchise lay at rest, but for the time being, I like seeing how he would continue the story in any way he sees fit.

Oh, I certainly haven’t forgotten. Prob why lots of us “clamor” about these types of conundrums so much:

and even if there was any conflict that might arise to keep us interested, the suspension of disbelief is gone when one of the aunt’s can literally will that person out of existence.

You’re essentially saying there should be no more possibility of WoG continuations, no new anime for any new characters he adds, or anything of the like.

Did some people say that? I for one sure haven’t, in fact I’ve gone on record saying I’d like more WoG (which even though it’s canon is a spinoff–sequel is a stretch, even Kaji himself didn’t have “TM” in title, like GXP–not OVA narrative directly);

Just for the record, but moving right along….
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In the end, it is a conundrum that will never be solved.

It may indeed be so.

Yeah, cause NOTHING like this has ever happened in the history of mankind. ^_~

What does history of mankind and Tenchi content have to do with one another, pray tell? Civil war, genocide and revolutionary causes have all happened in the history of mankind…don’t mean I want/need it in Tenchi.

…to put it bluntly, cabbit/human children in an incest-ridden polygamist compound is not what I signed up for in the summer of ’00. If that’s your cup of tea, fine, I won’t try to belittle anyone or knock it as inferior. It’s just not Tenchi for me.

Yeah, ’cause there was no incest nor polygamy in OVA 1 or OVA 2. ^_~

You got me there. But I was always a bit uncomfortable with the sibling arranged marriage set up for Yosho and Ayeka, but I overlooked it (plus it didn’t actually happen!). Same with Azusa’s two wives–didn’t like it, but not a big deal. Then – If – comes out: he has children with not just more than one woman, but the eternal rivals of Ryoko and Ayeka at that: didn’t care for that at all, but still I took it. Then we find out he has kids with the cabbit…I’m hanging on by threads. It’s only just now, with part 2 and Ryo-Ohki’s kids that I’ve more-or-less said “so be it, it’s been fun, but I’m off the Kajishima band wagon, best of luck to everyone still on it” etc.

Which is why I said this in the first place, right off the bat:

It seems the future of Tenchi will once again, for many, be a fork in the road: there’s Kajishima’s vision, and then there’s Love. I used to be on board with all things Tenchi…then with recent releases circa mid 2000’s, I had to reevaluate my positions. Now in 2014, personally, I can’t support Kajishima in any way if this is his sincere vision for the future of the franchise. That doesn’t mean I don’t accept it as his vision, it doesn’t mean I won’t keep myself and others well-informed with his new releases, and it sure as hell doesn’t mean I can’t get along just fine with folks who do support said vision, but to put it bluntly, cabbit/human children in an incest-ridden polygamist compound is not what I signed up for in the summer of ’00. If that’s your cup of tea, fine, I won’t try to belittle anyone or knock it as inferior. It’s just not Tenchi for me.

It has yet to be seen how or even if Ai Tenchi Muyo! will be more up my alley, but here’s to hoping.

And you know what? Here’s to hoping Kajishima fans get whatever it is they’re looking for too, I’ll take a swig for everyone!

Yours dearly,

– Who

So, comments right afterwards such as…

but here we are discussing his newest doujins on the very same board where such opinions take root.

Sure. Why not? Because, again, I’m a Tenchi fan and staff on the modern-day presence in the fandom outside Japan, so of course I’m not only going to vouch for allowing said discussions on the board (and I do mean “discussing” not berating), but I’ll jump in from time to time as well…you know, if that’s okay with everyone. 😉

Chiaia’s mother, actually.

Chiaia’s mother, actually.

Whaaaaa…? You’ve got to be kidding… Kiyofacepalm1

Kenshi is marrying her mother? WHY!? Her father is still alive right? wth2

Her mother doesn’t even appear in the show, does she?

I should have known the seemingly normal wedding was too good to be true. For me, this just goes too far into creepy/weird territory. I can mostly put up with the Masaki household’s incest-fest, but Kenshi marrying an already married woman that also happens to be the mother of another girl who could very well end up in his harem just rubs me the wrong way. Some other’s seemed to have a similar reaction to the newest edition of IF, but for me this appears like it will be pretty much the last nail in the coffin for the OVA-verse.

I will wait for translations before abandoning all hope, but I’m not expecting much…

You think so? I hope you’re right, but at first glance, especially with the veil, it really looks like a wedding to me.

We actually do have a thread for the new series! mmhmm1

Feel free to continue discussing it over there:

http://tenchiforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1303&start=110

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And Dagon, do you have a link to his Twitter? I’d love to take a look.

You think so? I hope you’re right, but at first glance, especially with the veil, it really looks like a wedding to me.

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“And do you, Kenshi, take this woman to be your lawfully-wedded mother-in-law?”

Nope, definitely a wedding.

http://tenchiforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1345&p=24797#p24797

Kiyofacepalm1

Lemme guess, while still going with the whole ‘marry Chiaia and all the girls’ bit? IF that’s true (marrying a girl AND her mother)* then I’m throwing any attempt at neutrality out the window, as of right now. Congrats, Mr. Kajishima, you broke me, and you’re one step closer to your ultimate vision of scaring off any remnants of your fan-base.

Anymore, how can you honestly say you’re onboard with this man’s vision for Tenchi/related series? Seriously.

(P.S. Rhetorical question, I don’t think I actually want to know.)

*this is, of course, on top of the previously-revealed polygamy, incest, borderline bestiality, polygamous incest, bestial polygamous incest, etc.

Nope, definitely a wedding.

http://tenchiforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1345&p=24797#p24797

Kiyofacepalm1

Lemme guess, while still going with the whole ‘marry Chiaia and all the girls’ bit? IF that’s true (marrying a girl AND her mother)* then I’m throwing any attempt at neutrality out the window, as of right now. Congrats, Mr. Kajishima, you broke me, and you’re one step closer to your ultimate vision of scaring off any remnants of your fan-base.

Anymore, how can you honestly say you’re onboard with this man’s vision for Tenchi/related series? Seriously.

(P.S. Rhetorical question, I don’t think I actually want to know.)

*this is, of course, on top of the previously-revealed polygamy, incest, borderline bestiality, polygamous incest, bestial polygamous incest, etc.

wwwwhhhhoooo, don’t jump to conclusions, no one said that kenshi is married to Chiaia and her mother at the same time, in fact I suspect that on Geminar they have “serial polygamy,” just like the good old USA. My guess is that Chiaia mother is trying to jump the line by claiming Chiaia is too young, and therefore taking her daughter’s place. Now you can’t tell me that something one Kajishima-sensei characters would never do.

Hey, I hope I’m wrong. But, uh, yeah, “jumping to conclusions” yeah, people neeeeeever do that when speculating about upcoming material.

This would seem explain the “If” Doujin released at the last ComiKet. It had no story line per say , but show a history of Tenchi’s and Siena’s children. If these are similar to previous short works by Kajishima Misaki, these will not be full anime, but more of a video slideshow with audio soundtracks. This would be an excellent way of covering a family history in Kajishima’s day in a life style of storytelling.

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tl;dr paraphrased: ‘New Tenchi series released? Well it has to be Kajishima’s latest doujin!’ (yeah, we all sometimes “jump” in a mutually-understood context of the hypothetical).

Nothing yet. Other than releasing “IF II”, and the belief that he may continue releasing a new “IF” volume with each of his Comiket releases. He’d mentioned thinking about doing so in his afterword in 13.12, which was released alongside the first “IF”. The next Comiket is only a few weeks away, so we’ll find out then if an “IF III” is coming along, or if he’ll have any new projects coming that use the thoughts from “IF” as a basis.