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    Ukinojo92 wrote:

    RWBY vol 3 dvd is going to come out this year

    May 3rd, to be exact. Soundtrack should be out in May as well, but no date yet.

    Here’s the Amazon listing.

    And the cover art. It has a slipcover too with the same artwork. Sadly, it seems they aren’t doing a black-colored BD case this time, unless they just used a generic mock-up for that packaging shot.

    WisperG
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    Here’s your spoiler warning. It was hard to talk about someone’s role in this movie without mentioning the death of a certain character from the main series.

    Naruto Shippuden[/color] The Movie”>

    Can this be? Did a Jump movie rise above the standard of mediocrity set by so many films before it, actually making a concerted effort to tie into it’s parent series in a meaningful way? Yes, yes they did. All of the previous Naruto films (and a good portion of the filler arcs), regardless of quality, were all pretty much the same exact thing. It was always the same story, just with different characters and villages swapped out.

    Tell me if this sounds familiar:

    Naruto, Sakura and [insert 1 or 2 popular secondary characters here] form a team lead by either Kakashi or Yamato to go on a mission. Along the way, Naruto tears down the walls of a new movie-exclusive character, befriends them, and teaches them to believe in themselves, helping them achieve some degree of personal growth, and inspiring them as he defeats the new movie-exclusive villain (usually with some movie-exclusive, one-time-only, powered-up Rasengan) while making sure everybody knows that his ninja way doesn’t involve giving up.

    I just described the plot of all 5 of the previous Naruto films. Except maybe Stone of Gelel? That movie was so forgettable I honestly could not tell you 90% of what happened in it. Fortunately, Will of Fire completely bucks the trend. Gone are the made-up villages and one-off movie protagonists. Sure, there’s still a movie-original villain with a fairly cliche character arc, but by making him a former Leaf ninja he already feels more closely connected to the goings-on in the Leaf Village. And this movie is all about the Leaf Village, and the ninja that live in it.

    As the title implies, the Will of Fire is at the center of this (to be clear, this is an important, oft-mentioned aspect of the series. It’s not something made up for this movie). I would suggest reading the main body of the wiki page. It’s not too long, though there are some spoilers in there. But to summarize, it’s an ideal or philosophy representative of the desire to love, serve, and protect the village. It’s also emblemic of the hopes and dreams of previous generations passed down to the next generation.

    The Will of Fire (the movie, not the philosophy) is the best kind of filler. The kind that draws on the core themes of the main series and crafts a new tale that truly feels like it adds something to the series, both narratively and thematically. Interestingly, much of the character development goes to Kakashi and Shikamaru this time around, who both play integral roles in the film. Shikamaru even becomes the de facto villain to Naruto’s hero for a good portion of the movie. Not in a “he turns evil” kinda way, but from a conflict of ideologies regarding what’s best for the village and about the hard decisions that need to be made to protect it.

    This movie gave many of the secondary Leaf ninja an important (if brief) role to play. The Sand ninja played a role in the story too. The last time the Sand ninja had more than just a cameo in a movie was way back in Stone of Gelel, where they felt very shoe-horned in, and while they no one but Gaara did much this time around, their presence made sense given the context. I was rather impressed they included nearly every secondary character of note, while both giving their presence a purpose and managing to avoid having such a large cast bog the movie down.

    The basic story is actually rather simple. Kakashi leaves the village under mysterious circumstances, prompting Naruto, Sakura and Sai to track him down against orders. Meanwhile, the bad guy is kidnapping ninja with kekkei genkai (special powers exclusive to a bloodline) from each nation to rather narrow-minded ends, casting suspicion on the Land of Fire, as they’re the only nation who hasn’t had anyone kidnapped yet, bringing the ninja world to the brink of war.

    That might sound pretty dense, but the main plot itself actually feels a bit thin, and mostly exists to create a situation where Naruto’s idealogies clash with those of the other ninja, most notably Shikamaru and Gaara. But it works great for that purpose. As such, the actual villain’s role in the movie feels more like a subplot than something truly important, but he does set the whole story in motion, and his character arc, if rather predictable, did at least tie up in a rather satisfying way that again hearkened back to those “core themes” I mentioned earlier. Still, the story offered a lot of opportunities for drama as loyalties and duties were called into question and fingers were pointed by people without a full grasp of the situation. While the plot could’ve used some more work, taken as a whole this movie feels far more significant than it’s predecessors, and still works as a solid piece of entertainment.

    To further the ties to the main series narrative, Shikamaru and Kakashi flash back to a number of key scenes from their pasts. Shikamaru thinks back to Asuma’s death and his final words, which are very important to the role he ends up playing in this movie. Kakashi thinks back to something important his squad-mate Obito told him back when he was young (a very important line that continues to be brought up again and again throughout the series). He also thinks of the test he gave Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura, where he tested whether they were worthy of continuing their ninja training by having them steal a pair of bells from him. He still holds onto the bells as a memento (which is also canon, as we see he has the bells in the main series too. It happened in this movie before the anime series, but I suppose the manga may have been beyond that point already).

    On another note, the villain Hiruko and his cronies seem to be quite fond of the leather-and-straps look. I quite liked Hiruko’s design. He looks pretty cool. The others, for better or worse, wore a lot more leather, and really played up the bondage look.

    Also, here’s something interesting I was made aware of. We don’t know if Kishimoto provided the designs himself or if he actually pulled them from the movie, but the four kekkei genkai-posessing ninja Hiruko kidnapped (and killed) would much, much, later have look-alikes with small appearances in the manga in flashbacks of ninja from their respective villages and, if I’m not mistaken, these look-alikes were eventually brought back to life by a villain using a resurrection jutsu and played a bit-part in the present. The anime goes a step further and actually has some of these resurrected ninja star as the villains of a filler arc. It’s hard to say definitively if they’re meant be the same people or not. Even though they look the same, their abilities don’t match up perfectly with those featured in the movie, but canonically their manga back-stories stories do match up quite well with the circumstances surrounding their disappearances in the movie. It would be pretty cool if they actually gave some forethought to including these characters in a movie to have some built-in backstory for their eventual manga appearances, even if a few details didn’t quite match up years later. Hooray for pseudo-canonism! This movie definitely gets brownie points for feeling relevant to the main series narrative in ways none of the other films did.

    After the animators dropped the ball in the previous movie, this one was quite a sight to behold. Everything stayed on-model and had consistently fluid animation. I didn’t notice any obvious CGI either. The movie also featured some really solid tracks during most of the fight scenes. The ED was a decent pop song by PUFFY (whom I almost entirely forgot stills exists in Japan, as they haven’t been relevant in the US for a good decade now).

    Can Studio Pierrot keep this up? From what I’ve heard about the next film, The Lost Tower, that will probably be a “no.” I will, of course, reserve judgement until after I see it, but it’s looking like the movies will have to go back downhill before I can hit the fan-favorites like Blood Prison and Road to Ninja.

    I might have a new favorite Naruto movie. I rated it higher than Ninja Clash in the Land of Snow, but I can’t quite decide which one I simply enjoyed watching more. Either way, I hope I’m not overselling it too much, but I really liked the direction they took this movie in comparison to the older ones.

    * Given the relevance of Asuma’s death to Shikamaru’s role and the presence of another character who isn’t going to last much longer, this movie would most likely be set right after the end of the Akatsuki Suppression Mission arc, which concludes in episode 89.

    * However, the mini-arc where we learn of Kakashi’s past and hear the line from Obito isn’t adapted in the anime until episodes 119 and 120, which was the week right before the movie came out. In the manga, this Kakashi flashback was right in-between the final chapter of OG Naruto and the first chapter of the Shippuden era. So if you’ve read the manga, it should be fine to watch it in it’s “chronological” spot, whereas anime watchers should only watch it after episode 120.

    This isn’t relevant to the review, but Hiruko seems ripe for gender-ambiguous fanart. So I’m rather surprised I only came across this one picture while searching for the image of him I used in the review. I guess filler/movie characters just don’t attract the same amount of attention as canon characters. He just feels like the kind of character that would be quite popular if he was featured in the series proper.

    WisperG
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    The Ancient Magus’ Bride is getting a 3-part prequel anime bundled with upcoming volumes of the manga. The manga has been on my radar for awhile, but I might have to bump it up on my priorities list after how good this trailer makes it look.

    [BBvideo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoCwUzbkfdk[/BBvideo]

    WisperG
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    Gosh I’m lazy, I sat on this for SO LONG. Should’ve had this done weeks ago! As such, you’ve probably heard most of these theories elsewhere already, but bear with me.

    Anyways…

    RWBY – Episode 12

    ~~~

    Ozpin finally got his Yoda moment. And it was glorious(ly short).

    ~~~

    Lots of potential plot points and returning faces for this quest to Mistral.

    Now that we’re likely to actually see Mistral in V4, I’m thinking it’s inevitable we’ll get a really heart-wrenching episode where we meet Pyrrha’s family and either Jaune (most likely) or Ruby has to break the news to them that she’s dead. All hope is not lost Jaune. Maybe she has a sister?

    Team SSSN also hails from Mistral, so assuming they evacuated Vale during the timeskip, they’re very likely to show their faces there.

    The White Fang may also be based out of Mistral, as Adam mentions returning there in V3E7 before Cinder and Co. rope him into their evil plot.

    CMEN was also posing as students from Mistral. Whether they’re actually from there or not is unclear, but Merc and Emerald might pop up at some point.

    ~~~

    We all knew Pyrrha was based on Achilles. But did they REALLY shoot her in the Achilles? Come on, that’s like… the most cliche thing that could’ve happened. And it wasn’t even metaphorical. She literally got shot -with an arrow- right on the bulls-eye.

    At least she went out with an epic fight. I’m rather surprised she was able to hold her own against a maiden, though I suppose Cinder could have been weakened from her fight with Ozpin. I did find it odd that, even though she now has the full power of the Fall maiden, Cinder still only used fire magic, and even then would only manifest her powers briefly when she needed to do a quick attack/deflection or to float.

    The whole “Ruby has crazy powers of legend” thing is a bit confusing, especially considering we already know of another legend that also involved special powers. A lot of people simply jumped on the “Ruby must be a maiden” bandwagon, but I think Qrow makes it pretty clear the “Silver-Eyed Warriors” is a completely separate legend from the tale of the Maidens. It’ll be interesting to see how both of these legends progress. I think it’s a safe bet we’ll meet the other three maidens at some point, and slightly-less-likely-but-still-possible that we could meet another huntsman with silver eyes along the way.

    Going back to Cinder, I doubt she’s dead, though I do wonder if she’s “frozen” like Kevin (aka the dragon). As Qrow said, that power was notable for being super-OP against Grimm. Would it even work against a human, only being intended for Grimm? Or does it work on anything, but it’s just particularly effective against Grimm? It’s hard to say at this point. I hope somebody finds her up there covered in bird poop next Volume.

    Also of note is that Kevin’s silhouette is obscured by clouds during Blake’s brief scene. We don’t know if it’s literally frozen in ice, or “frozen” in some other way. Frozen in time, perhaps? Ozpin with his clock/gear motif is one thing, but the idea of Ruby having time-altering powers is kinda… out there. At the very least, we know it’s frozen stiff, in the sense that it has completely stopped moving. Anything beyond that is just conjecture.

    On another note, Cinder’s “WHAT!?” reaction to Ruby’s powers is my second favorite scene from the entire episode, behind only Salem’s closing narration. I love it when confident villains lose their composure. I always have a stupid, “You deserved that” grin plastered on my face whenever I see that happen.

    ~~~

    I had my mind blown when I realized something about Salem’s narration. Just looking at V3, she seems to be talking to herself, but think back to Jen Taylor’s opening narration way back in Episode 1 of Volume 1. Rather than a monologue, it’s a dialogue. Her narration in the V3 finale is a direct rebuttal of Ozpin’s statement from V1E1 (which I had totally forgotten about until I rewatched it). Taking that into account, she seems to be talking directly to Ozpin, who was probably captured and is likely right there with her, having this conversation some time after the events of Volume 3.

    Guardians. Smaller, more honest souls. (And “simple” things. V1’s opening anyone?). The level of forethought they put into planning this series is incredible.

    (skip to 1:15 if you want to jump straight to the relevant part)

    [BBvideo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV6Qsm-DIBQ[/BBvideo]

    ~~~

    Now for the pulled-out-of-my-butt theories.

    I was going to talk about a bit more in-depth about a fan theory for how Pyrrha might not really be dead. She could be playing coy, and plans could always change down the line, but Pyrrha’s voice actress has since all but confirmed that she’s gone for good, so I’ll just summarize.

    We see a million of these theories each time someone dies, but this one actually made a fair bit of sense. It suggested that Cinder actually teleported her away rather than scattering her ashes to the wind, perhaps to wherever Salem is. To what end? Not a clue, though the idea of Ruby and JNR (especially Jaune) having to confront a corrupted Pyrrha would be pretty cool.

    The other half to this theory comes from trying to find an explanation for Ozpin’s disappearance. It’s clear to me that he was captured by Cinder and taken to Salem where they proceed to have their existential conversation they started in V1E1. But how did he get there? And how did Cinder end their fight so quickly when they seemed to be pretty evenly matched? Perhaps she did that to him what she did to Pyrrha, transporting him away in the same manner and leaving behind his cane which Qrow finds later, much like how Pyrrha’s headpiece was left behind when she disintegrated.

    On the other hand, unless Oz’s green force field just couldn’t hold up to Cinder’s Kamehameha, this doesn’t explain how she subdued him long enough to actually do this, and it’s not entirely clear WHEN Ozpin and Salem’s discussion takes place.

    Speaking of Salem, where the heck is she? Another realm/dimension? Maybe, but the shattered moon is still there. What place could possibly be so… alien… in comparison to Vale, and presumably to the other kingdoms as well? My crack theory is that she might be on that funky dragon-looking continent to the north of Vacuo. It’s shape is pretty ominous and has to mean something. It’s also the only full-sized continent without a kingdom, meaning it’s probably uninhabited and overrun with Grimm. It would be the perfect base of operations for her, but that’s just a random theory that crossed my mind.

    Oh yeah, and where the funyuns was Raven? We haven’t seen her in-person since her cryptic dream talk with Yang at the end of Volume 2. I thought for sure she’d make some kind of appearance in this Volume. I initially thought the bird outside Yang’s window during Salem’s narration might have been her. While watching the episode I spaced it that she already has a voice actress (from the V2 post-credit teaser) and briefly thought that perhaps SHE was actually the narrator and main villain, until Salem’s reveal, but now that we know Qrow can turn into an actual crow, it seems more likely that was him checking on Yang before he flies off to catch up with Ruby & Co.

    WisperG
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    I didn’t think Hayate had a dub. All of Bandai and Sentai’s DVDs have been sub-only. Unless you don’t mean an English one?
    WisperG
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    Oops, I missed this when I made my previous post.

    Nobuyuki wrote:

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    Again, it’s just another way this movie kills your suspension of disbelief with regards to it actually working as an event in the canon.

    Best bet’s to not treat any of them as canon.

    Except The Last. ;)


    That would certainly be easier, but I just don’t think that way. blush1

    I’m aware none except The Last and Boruto are actually canon, but are we not supposed to pretend that this is what Naruto and Co. were up to at various points? The movies, like the filler arcs, are just more material that expands and fleshes out the universe, and while many of them come up with pointless new villages, characters and special techniques that will never be referenced again, few of them contradict anything beyond minor details that can be easily overlooked (notably however, Kishimoto has accepted a number of anime-original ideas into the manga canon).

    As I mentioned in the review, most movies do “fit” into the narrative (for the most part) and can be placed on the timeline somewhere. It’s basically Star Wars Expanded Universe territory. And if it fits, it might as well be canon, as far as I’m concerned, and honestly, most of them don’t do such a bad job at that. For the most part, they’re just self-contained fluff stories. They resolve themselves by the end and leave no lasting repercussions on the world or characters. It’s not hard to pretend that these movies really were random missions or events that happened between existing arcs without worrying about breaking canon in any significant way, if at all. As such, that psuedo-canonical suspension of disbelief always factors into my impressions of these one-off Jump films.

    But Bonds just wasn’t like that. It’s like it went out of it’s way to directly contradict established plot points (like Naruto’s brief use of the Nine-Tails transformation, which should have been sealed) and include major events that would have had lasting repercussions had it been canon (several of which oddly mirroring actual events from later in the manga), but ultimately amount to nothing. It’s really the only movie (of the ones I’ve seen) that breaks canon to this degree without a second thought. It’s like they just said “Screw it! Here’s Sasuke, and the Nine-Tails, and a couple slick fight scenes, oh and lets raise the stakes by decimating the Leaf Village too. That’ll be cool.” In the end, it really was nothing more than a fanservice movie.

    TL;DR

    Sorry, I didn’t mean to ramble on about this for three paragraphs. Ultimately, it just comes down to canonicity meaning different things to different people. For me personally, as stated above, I’ve always preferred the “If it fits, it might as well be canon” mindset, unless it’s directly in major conflict with canon material, as Bonds was. On that note, is it still called a headcanon if it encompasses official works?

    In other news, I watched Will of Fire today and will have that review up within the next few days.

    WisperG
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    mitsuki lover wrote:

    Just wondering if the rest of the Shippuden movies are like that.

    I don’t think so. I haven’t seen them all yet, but Bonds is widely considered to be the worst of the Shippuden films. Most of the others are either decent or even really good. I quite liked the first one (simply titled “Shippuden: The Movie”) myself.

    The two that are most worth watching, and are now considered the best by many, are the two that are actually canon to the manga, The Last and Boruto (the 7th and 8th films). Though for obvious reasons they’re best watched after the conclusion of the series (or rather, the manga or the latest video game, since the anime still hasn’t adapted the ending), unless you just don’t care about spoilers or following about a specific viewing order.

    Before the two above movies claimed that title, the third Shippuden film, Will of Fire was the one I most often saw pointed to as the best, as it was one of the few that actually tried to pull from the main series narrative both thematically and by referencing a number of key scenes from the last few Shippuden arcs. That one’s next on my list, so I’ll know soon if all the praise is deserved. I may even rank/score all of the Naruto films I’ve seen in my review post for WoF.

    WisperG
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    I’ve got a few movies and short series that are at the top of my priorities list right now, so I figured I’d have a little fun with them and write up my thoughts. This thread could use a shot in the arm.

    A few early Shippuden spoilers are in here, but nothing beyond Episode 114. Those episodes are several years old, but if someone still has a problem with this I don’t mind putting it in a spoiler tag.

    Naruto Shippuden The Movie -Bonds-

    This is the 2nd Shippuden film and the 5th Naruto film overall. I’d heard some pretty poor things about it and for the most part I’d say they were right. A number of fans even claim it to be the worst Naruto film, and while I wouldn’t go that far, it was pretty blah even by Shonen Jump movie standards. It didn’t quite hit my rock-bottom expectations though.

    One of this films biggest issues was that it just doesn’t mesh well with the Naruto canon. Like most of the films, you can place it on the timeline at a certain point, but it fudged too many details to really convince you that this was an actual event that actually occurred in the downtime between arcs in the anime or manga. The other movies did a much better job at making you think it was just another mission they went on. They “fit” and they don’t really contradict anything of significance.

    And one of the biggest contradictions here was Sasuke. By the point the anime was at when this movie came out he had been absent for over three years worth of episodes (~90 eps of OG Naruto’s filler hell, and almost 70 eps of Shippuden), with only the briefest of appearances in Shippuden’s first episode and at the end of the previous story arc. The Three-Tails Appearance filler arc (which encompassed most of eps 89-112) did a much better job at treating fans to some Sasuke screentime by showing what he’d been up to and having it actually make sense. This movie just shoehorns him into the narrative, and even has him bump into Naruto and Hinata, with Naruto reacting to his appearance in an uncharacteristically low-key fashion (Whoa, Sasuke? What are you doing here?)

    Next, the Hidden Leaf Village itself. Different directors/writers/artists seem to put their own artistic spin on it, with some of the higher-end episode and movies depicting it a little more modernized that usual, but this interpretation was the strangest. It was less “village” and far more city-like than usual, with lots of tall buildings, row-houses and more of a brick aesthetic. It mostly ditched the heavy Japanese feel and felt a lot more European. This isn’t a negative per-se, it was just a really odd artistic decision.

    What is a negative was what happened to the village, and this is where the plot just didn’t make any sense. It was attacked by an enemy (movie-original) village, and the damage was quite extensive. You’d think such a thing would be off-limits for a movie, but they did it anyways. The problem is that this obviously didn’t affect the main series at all. During the one point in the anime where this movie could have taken place, the village was obviously completely fine. Again, it’s just another way this movie kills your suspension of disbelief with regards to it actually working as an event in the canon.

    Coincidentally, an extremely similar attack happens in the actual show about a hundred episodes after the point where this movie was released, carried out by one of the major series villains. That attack obviously has major repercussions as it’s actually canon. Surely the writers already knew about this event from the manga, which just makes a lesser version of it an even odder thing to include in a one-off movie.

    I won’t talk to much about the narrative. It was a pretty mediocre, cliche-ridden plot and it completely squandered it’s one opportunity for a notable plot twist. Animation-wise, it was also a big disappointment. It used crappy CGI for some of the environments and mechanical stuff. On the other hand, the facial animation, dynamic camera-angles and a few of the fight scenes were pretty good-looking. The rest of the fights, and all the rest of the 2D animation wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t up to par with the previous movies. The good points I mentioned earlier aside, it looked like an above-average episode of the TV series.

    If nothing else it was still entertaining, and if you like Naruto there’s no reason not to watch it, or any of the films at least once, if only for completions sake, but I cannot call this a good movie. As I mentioned at the beginning though, this still isn’t my least-favorite Naruto film. That honor goes to the 2nd film, Legend of the Stone of Gelel. It’s the most boring, cliche, narratively-flawed Jump film I’ve ever watched. Ironically, more terrible CG aside, Gelel also has the best 2D animation of any of the films I’ve seen thus far, which is it’s one saving grace. A shame that animation was wasted on such a crappy film. It’s a treat for the eyes, and nothing else.

    * For the curious, this film would have to take place around eps 111 or 112, between the end of the Three-Tails filler arc, but before Sasuke decides to kill Orochimaru (which happens at the start of the next arc), who is still sick and bedridden in the film

    WisperG
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    EDIT: wow, did I really post this? I was just jotting down notes for the full post. Meant to save it as a draft.

    wth2

    WisperG
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    Huh, well, I’ve always wondered where Dr. Oobleck’s name came from. “Doctor Seuss” is not the answer I expected.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_and_the_Oobleck#Influence

    I must have missed that one as a kid. I had tons of his books, but I don’t remember this one.

    ~~~

    On another note, there’s something that’s been bugging me since I watched Volume 2. What the heck happened to the plant life around Beacon’s front courtyard?

    Compare.

    Volume 1. Grass. Shrubs. Trees. The color green.
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    Volume 2. Dirt. Rocks. No color besides grey and red.
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    I know they toned down some of the bright colors a bit starting in V2, but the interior yard around the tower and the surrounding school grounds (including where V3’s fair grounds are located) are still perfectly green. The front, and only the front, became a bleak-looking wasteland. I guess Beacon’s financial department fired one of the gardeners?

    It makes me curious just how large this area is supposed to be. This V1 art shows only green stretching from the school in all directions, but that’s clearly not the case any more, at least right around the cliffside port.

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