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- January 2, 2014 at 6:32 AM
- in reply to: Future Ideas: OVA4 / TU2 / Reboot Thread
Dagon123 wrote:AstroNerdBoy wrote:
As to a reboot, I can’t see that happening.The Japanese seem very loathe to do rebootsUh…
You removed the rest of my sentence, which clearly stated, “…though it is not unheard of (obviously).” ;;;
Oh, and Evangelion Rebuilds may end up being a sequel, not a reboot. We won’t know until the bloody thing ends. ^_~
Quote:Now that being said, I think the premise of a doujin dedicated to completely one off or “what if” situations has lots of potential, it means we could explore avenues we haven’t seen for awhile, or maybe even characters that haven’t been around
kiyonesmile1 I was just reminded that years ago, Kajishima-sensei put out the same kind of caution about his doujinshi as he has in
-If-. Basically, the caution is to give himself wiggle room to change his mind, thus the doujinshi are canon until that happens. Look at “Tenko”. When the character of Ryoko’s daughter was introduced years ago in the doujinshi
Tenchi Sokuhoushe had a different character design than what Kajishima-sensei has introduced in -If-. Take a look. http://tenchi.astronerdboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Ryoko-Daughter.jpg " /> “Tenko’s” character design today is MUCH better than it was back in the day, but that’s why Kajishima-sensei has always put out a cautionary note about his works not being official (or whatever he actually says). I bet if Kajishima-sensei actually told the story from
Tenchi Sokuhou, “Tenko” would look as she looks today. - January 2, 2014 at 2:48 AM
- in reply to: Future Ideas: OVA4 / TU2 / Reboot Thread
Regarding the canon franchise, when asked about the potential of a 4th OVA series, Kajishima-sensei has stated that if he did such a story, it would be like a post-war tale, implying that there would only be stories like what is hinted at in these doujinshi. As to a reboot, I can’t see that happening. The Japanese seem very loathe to do reboots, though it is not unheard of (obviously). (I’m not considering
Tenchi Universeor Tenchi in Tokyoto be “reboots” but spinoff reimages.) I would like to see the novels “Jurai”, “Yosho”, and “Washu” in anime form.
- January 2, 2014 at 2:37 AM
- in reply to: Future Ideas: OVA4 / TU2 / Reboot Thread
susano wrote:Katsuhito or Yosho is his father Azusa’s choose of successor. So, Katsuhito is first in line to the throne. Tenchi is second in line to the throne while Seina is third. Of course, the four royal houses of Jurai must agreed to who will become the Emperor.
If all of the four houses learn of the real truth about Tenchi, all houses may agreed to elect Tenchi to become Emperor. Unforuntatley like his grandfather Katsuhito, Tench is not interested in Jurain Politics at all. If Tenchi is going to Jurai sometime in the future, he will likely be Earth’s ambassador to Jurai. As Earth’s Ambassador, Tenchi will have a good reason to move to Jurai with his family.
Technically yes, Yosho is first in line. I apologize for the confusion. Yosho would not accept the throne, which was his whole reason for planning to send Tenchi to Jurai in his stead with Ryoko in tow. As such, I tend to move passed Yosho and move to Tenchi, then Seina.
Still, if Tenchi’s power of Light Hawk Wings become known to all the Houses (it is known to House Masaki and House Kamiki for sure), then in my mind, he’d move to the top of the list because he doesn’t need a Royal tree. So that’s what I did, which was incorrect. Thanks for the correction.
I do disagree with you about Tenchi possibly becoming Earth’s ambassador to Jurai. Earth is classified as a colony of Jurai. Further, there’s nothing to indicate that Jurai’s nor Galaxy Police’s presence is known by any nation on Earth. Yosho does have some connection with the Japanese emperor, but how much the emperor knows, I could not say. Earth would have to have a single world government and be declared independent from Jurai before they could have an ambassador.
As to the line of succession, I suspect that Kajishima-sensei has a line in mind, including exactly where Aeka is in that line. I suspect she’d be pretty high though.
- December 30, 2013 at 4:11 PM
- in reply to: Future Ideas: OVA4 / TU2 / Reboot Thread
As I understand it, Seina is first in line after Tenchi. Kajishima-sensei has stated that Sasami would not take the position. I’ve always presumed that part of this decision is based on the fact that Sasami is Tsunami. - December 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM
- in reply to: Comiket 85 Doujinshi
The picture of Ryoko’s baby floating and the reactions of Ryoko and Aeka to it were AWESOME! *lol* Can’t wait to see this.
- December 12, 2013 at 8:42 PM
- in reply to: Thoughts on Tenchi/Ryoko
I don’t know if there’s such saying or not (and I haven’t bothered to Google it). But yeah, even though we learned Kiyone is a bit of a nutter, none of the other girls are really like her. Maybe they all have elements of her. ^_~ - December 11, 2013 at 8:52 PM
- in reply to: Thoughts on Tenchi/Ryoko
mitsuki lover wrote:I guess that would be more of a
what if?situation though: What If Tenchi And Ryoko Had More Alone Time Together Before The Other Girls Start Showing Up?. You’d have something akin to
El-Hazard…maybe. ^_~ - December 10, 2013 at 10:43 PM
- in reply to: Thoughts on Tenchi/Ryoko
mitsuki lover wrote:So we never do get anything close to a Tenchi alone with Ryoko after episode 1 of OVA 1.
Well, they are briefly alone together in OVA 2 when Ryoko wears Kiyone’s kimono and Tenchi is very admiring until Ryoko rips off the sleeve. At the end of the episode, the two are shown walking off together as Tenchi has forgiven her and I think Ryoko is carrying the big basket of carrots.
- December 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM
- in reply to: Thoughts on Tenchi/Ryoko
julia wrote:AstroNerdBoy wrote:You can blame Hasegawa-sensei’s influence for that. As I understand it, Kajishima-sensei didn’t want Aeka to be still hung up on Yosho in a romantic way, but Hasegawa-sensei, as script writer, added that element into the final version of the script because she saw Aeka as more of a tragic princess heroine. OVA 1 has three influences — Kajishima, Hasegawa, and Hayashi, which is why there are some inconsistencies.
I didn’t know that at all! It would have been better for her not to have been… because she just feels a bit flakey to me because of that
It just helps reinforce my love for the Tenchi x Ryoko pairing ^.^ I agree with you. However, the “tragic princess” element is basically what became the standard after
OVA 1. All of her other incarnations are rooted in that. ; The_evil_Genius wrote:Another reason is why I think tenchi/Ryoko was the choice tenchi would always would make in the end than the whole Ayeka/Tenchi pairing is because in the ova tenchi risked his twice to save Ryoko…
Back in the day when I would get into shipping debates, this was one of the things I cited. Naturally, as usually happens with people who are emotionally tied to things/ideas, these citations were ignored. *lol*
shadowsfall0 wrote:OVA wise, I always found it interesting that when Ryoko was kidnapped by Dr. Clay, Tenchi felt it. Now as to whether or not that was his abilities of “Omniscience” coming to light, or he has a bond with Ryoko in a certain way that is stronger than the rest is purely debatable and subjective.
Debatable, yeah, but there’s plenty of evidence to support such a bond. After all, Yosho wanted Tenchi to go to Jurai in his stead with Ryoko. Yosho and Kiyone did things to pique Tenchi’s interest in Ryoko. As a child, it is believed that Tenchi could sense Ryoko (in astral form) outside the cave. When Kiyone died, Tenchi fled to Ryoko’s Cave, where Ryoko used her limited abilities in astral form to shield him from the snow. Ryoko put a part of herself into Chibi, the cat that was near death which Tenchi rescued.
So yeah, I think it is safe to say there’s a deeper bond between Ryoko and Tenchi, but since Tenchi was raised with Ryoko around (in astral form), I think that is understandable.
Quote:Ryoko is my personal favorite of the two, though, so initially I am happy at the thought of the Ryoko/Tenchi pairing. Ayeka doesn’t exactly need to be left in the dust though. Of course, that’s my personal opinion.
In the canon, Aeka isn’t left out due to the harem ending. ^_~
Dagon123 wrote:AstroNerdBoy wrote:You can blame Hasegawa-sensei’s influence for that. As I understand it, Kajishima-sensei didn’t want Aeka to be still hung up on Yosho in a romantic way, but Hasegawa-sensei, as script writer, added that element into the final version of the script because she saw Aeka as more of a tragic princess heroine. OVA 1 has three influences — Kajishima, Hasegawa, and Hayashi, which is why there are some inconsistencies
Well that’s why Hasegawa was a script writer, lol What was Kajishima going to do with Ayeka in any kind of important capacity? Hasegawa understood that the main characters should probably have more personality, even shallow ones, then just being plot points and trophies in a harem on screen.
“Script polisher” would be more of what she did. After all, the earlier versions of the script were written by Kajishima-sensei. I’ve seen some of them. Episode 2 and 5 were the ones that Hasegawa-sensei did the final version of the script for.
I would disagree that Hasegawa-sensei understood the characters more. After all, Kajishima-sensei is the one who created the characters. She had her vision of the characters and her vision of where the story should go. Because she changed things to her vision, vs what Kajishima had envisioned, that’s why she had no role in the rest of the canon and went to do her own, very successful, spinoff line.
When Hasegawa-sensei started writing her spinoff novels, she when to Kajishima-sensei to ask some questions. She admitted that she had no understanding of the Choushin, nor Washu. Her vision of Washu, which is carried on in her novels, is that Washu was simply a mad scientist.
@Dagon123 – I think that Hayashi would have preferred a Ryoko x Tenchi pairing and my understanding that this is his influence on OVA 1. Kajishima-sensei apparently always wanted a harem ending. He structured the story so that such an ending works (Jurai would heartily approve of Tenchi marrying the harem for a whole host of political reasons).highgear56 wrote:It’s just inevitable at some point in a harem that you probably piss off fans because their character wasn’t chosen for reasons ranging from rejection (Tenchi chooses [name]) to complete disregard (Tenchi chooses no one and keeps them all in limbo).
And that showed up in the TU spinoff, as there were people upset with how the 3rd movie (which wrapped up the TU timeline anime-wise) paired Tenchi off with Ryoko.
Quote:…if Tenchi was in no way related to Ayeka whatsoever (discovered in Ep2 when she realized the sword works in sync with him), she probably wouldn’t have developed those feelings despite Tenchi being the same person he always has been. Whereas Ryoko doesn’t care if he’s Juraian or not.
You might be right, but I’ve suspected that the reason Tenchi attracts the girls is that they are subconsciously reacting to the power within him.
mitsuki lover wrote:I wonder if that is true though,seeing as in the first ova it is evident that it’s Yosho himself who is pushing the whole Aeka/Tenchi relationship.
True. Of course, Yosho was married and didn’t want Aeka still interested in him, so why not use the Katsuhito persona to accomplish his mission. *lol*
But yeah, after Aeka (and Sasami) showed up, that changed the dynamics of things. Every subsequent girl continued that change.
- December 3, 2013 at 8:51 PM
- in reply to: So something that got me thinking
There’s actually a more complete family tree. http://tenchi.astronerdboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/tenchi_ova_relation20091227.pdf