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    Does anyone know how many pages 15.12 is? I’m hearing there are only two.
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    mitsuki lover wrote:

    I was thinking of the Japanese original too when I read that. Though even there I wonder how many of the original cast they could get.

    Aeka’s original seiyuu (TAKADA Yumi) retired, I think. So she was replaced in Ai Tenchi Muyo and her replacement, NANAO Haruhi, did a really good job of capturing Yumi’s performance as Aeka.

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    So what don’t they consider canon would be a better question.

    Anything not written by Kajishima-sensei is not considered canon.

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    drillmaster wrote:

    This is a thing that’s happening? I’m simultaneously thrilled and terrified. The one thing that I hope OVA 4 picks up on is the biggest lingering plot thread from OVA 2: Azusa’s declaration that he will not stop trying to get Ayeka to come back to Jurai. .

    I believe that was covered in the novel Washu. I’m not sure if that will even be touched, though I wish the Shin Tenchi Muyo novels would get an anime adaptation.

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    Alex Morgan wrote:

    Hopefully they find someone who sounds like Ryoko and stop abusing her character.

    Well, ORIKASA Ai is returning to do the roll, as she’s done from day 1. Oh wait, you meant the English dubs. ;-)

    WisperG wrote:

    With Kajishima at the helm it really could go either way depending on how much creative control he was given, but looking at his recent doijinshi, probably not the way we want it to go. His last foray into Masaki-household-starring material was OVA3, which wasn’t exactly looked upon favorably my many.

    If you are referring to the -If- doujinshi, I think this was always the way he was going to go if he did an OVA 4. As I recall it, even as OVA 3 was being created, he basically stated that when it came to a 4th OVA, it would be a story akin to what happened after World War II. OVA 1 through 3 were the “war” story and OVA 4 would be aftermath. That’s why I never believed he’d actually do it for years, but I guess the urge to tell that aftermath story is what is driving OVA 4.

    I liked what I saw in the -If- doujinshi, but that’s just me.

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    I’m not sure what you’re last comment means though. OVA3 (i.e. OVA episodes 14-20, or 15-21 if you’re counting the Here Comes Jurai 2 short), GXP and Geminar are also canon to the OVA timeline.

    Yeah, those are all canon.

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    Ukinojo92 wrote:

    I am exited for OVA 4, as does any other fan, but I also live in fear of it. This is what I think: Kajishima will pick up from OVA 3 and still have Norike, and he is going to gives a story line that doesn’t get explained well.

    Well, of course he’s going to have Noike. She’s been around since 1994.

    That said, you are correct in that all of the OVA’s have a problem on the explanation front. For OVA 1, it was the limitation of the OVA format (six 30 minute episodes). All of this story that Kajishima-sensei had just couldn’t fit into that format. That’s why we got “101 Mysteries of Tenchi Muyo” to help answer those questions. Kajishima-sensei had a website for a time where he took questions. And he took his background materials and published them in doujinshi form. He also published the three Tenchi novels after OVA 2 ended and OVA 3 was put on the shelf by Pioneer in favor of cheaper retellings in the TV series format (Tenchi Universe; Tenchi in Tokyo; Pretty Sammy).

    For OVA 3, I think Kasjishima-sensei’s problem was that he got bogged down in telling the “day in a life” story of the Tenchi household and neglected the main story until the very end. Kajishima-sensei enjoys tat kind of story these days, as demonstrated in his doujinshi.

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    Kajishima has established what Tenchi is in his mind and will not deviate from it, no matter what anyone says.

    Well, in all fairness, it is his story. If you were an author and were writing what you wanted to write (and it was selling quite well in the only market you really care about), are you going to care what foreign fans are complaining about? Japanese fans get doujinshi, novels, interviews, etc. We in the West get whatever tidbits we can get, depending on if someone is willing to translate the materials (and translate them accurately). So they get all of this extra stuff that we don’t, which allows them to have a more positive view of OVA 3.

    (Indeed, as someone who learned a ton from knowledgeable fans, including English-speaking Japanese fans back in the day, OVA 3 saw many things I’d hoped for brought to life, even if the overall execution of OVA 3 sucked.)

    I do believe that Kajishima-sensei worked best when he has a focusing lens, which is what Hayashi-sensei was in OVA 1, but I believe Kajishima-sensei is a prima donna who doesn’t want anyone telling him anything.

    As to OVA 4, I’m not getting excited until details from the doujinshi are released.

    As to what OVA 4 would be about, I think we have a clue from the -If- doujinshi issues. The old AIC interview from Kajishima-sensei had him asked about an OVA 4 and he too wondered what that would be about since OVA 3 ends the main story. So I think that if there’s an OVA 4, it will be day in the life stuff, and there might be some event that causes Tenchi and company to become engaged at the end.

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    evilpii wrote:

    Why would Azusa pair his children in this way? Even Ayeka is aware that others would see the union as unusual or unnatural.

    I theorize that Funaho was originally a consort, rather than a queen, and that Yosho was perhaps conceived or born out of wedlock. This would explain Misaki being addressed as “the Empress” in Hexagram. In this case, Yosho would not be a legitimate heir to the throne. Instead, Ayeka would be next in line. This would explain why a conflict would arise if Yosho stayed.

    Azusa didn’t pair Yosho with Aeka. That was done by Funaho and Misaki. If I recall correctly, their reasoning for this was to further seal the bond within House Masaki since there had been problems with Azusa bringing this Earth girl from roughly the waring states period of Japan to Jurai, mainly because Azusa had been arranged to be married to Misaki by Misaki’s mother, Seto.

    House Masaki was nearly extinct, so to preserve this former great house, Seto groomed a young Azusa. Azusa was much like the founder of Jurai in that he didn’t like being tied down. So after he came to Jurai, was chosen by the 1st generation royal tree Kirito and set out on his proving journey, he encountered Kagao and Ryoko. The battle that ensued was destructive and Tsunami had to intervene, sending Azusa to Earth. There, he met and fell in love with Funaho, and he saved her and her little sister from space pirates that were using as a hideout.

    (There is a theory that Ryoko’s Cave might have been the old pirate hideout that Yosho would use centuries later to seal Ryoko in, but that’s just theory.)

    Regardless, while Earth was officially a colony of Jurai, Earth was a very primitive planet. So when Azusa brought her to Jurai, he was not only defying the powerful Seto and rejecting his arranged marriage, but he also dared bring a primitive and propose to marry her instead. In the end, a settlement was reached whereby Azusa was to marry both. Misaki was younger than Funaho and looked up to Funaho as a big sister (as I recall it). The two got along well, and after both had children, both agreed to the whacky notion of having Yosho marry Aeka.

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    If Azusa wanted Yosho to take the throne…

    Azusa had no say on whether Yosho took the throne or not. The politics of Jurai are not traditional in terms of the emperorship. The four royal houses of Jurai hold an election. To quote the FAQ,

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    Before Azusa was elected emperor, the previous emperor was from House Amaki. When he died, the heads of the four royal houses come together to choose a new emperor. Various factors (including normal politics) go into whom is elected, but having a 1st-gen tree as a partner all but assures your election since only five (not counting the 1st-gen seed that bonded with Seina) have chosen to bond with Juraians.

    What made Yosho first in line for the throne was his royal tree (whom he named after his mother, Funaho) was 1st generation. Yosho didn’t want this, which is why he used Ryoko’s attack on Jurai as an excuse

    evilpii wrote:

    Admittedly, the more I watch OVA series 1, the most I sympathize with Ayeka. She simply had her heart set on marrying the man she had been groomed to love. sadface1

    Supposedly, the one of reasons Kajishima-sensei was unhappy with Hasegawa-sensei was how she saw Aeka as a tragic figure and thus her scripts reflected that, which wasn’t the way Kajishima-sensei portrayed Aeka in his earlier draft of the story. In Kajishima-sensei’s mind, Aeka would accept the official account of Yosho having died after seeing the royal tree Funaho planted in the ground. Royal tree’s usually live longer than their Juraian partners, so when their partner dies, the tree is planted in the ground to serve as grave marker and grave keeper.

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    Awesome. Glad to see that translated. Sad to hear that Kajishima-sensei’s anime isn’t making much progress. I have this funny feeling it will hinge on Ai Tenchi Muyo, but I could be wrong.
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    I miss True Sheol. *sigh*

    I’m a bit surprised more images from the new doujinshi haven’t come up, nor the note from Kajishima-sensei at the end of 14.8. (Unless I missed it, which the way things are these days, I wouldn’t be surprised.)

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    Marty Kirra wrote:

    Sure, I’ll take that Tenchi is dumb enough to think that getting married to everyone is a good solution…but now Tenchi has sex with everyone and makes a ton of babies? And the ladies in the house are all cool with this?

    Gotta love that main canon. wtfisthis1

    Yeah, cause NOTHING like this has ever happened in the history of mankind. ^_~

    wwwwhhhhoooo wrote:

    …to put it bluntly, cabbit/human children in an incest-ridden polygamist compound is not what I signed up for in the summer of ’00. If that’s your cup of tea, fine, I won’t try to belittle anyone or knock it as inferior. It’s just not Tenchi for me.

    Yeah, ’cause there was no incest nor polygamy in OVA 1 or OVA 2. ^_~

    Kidding aside, thanks to all who’ve provided the images. I’m looking forward to seeing more of the fun.

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    I didn’t expect If II. Looking forward to seeing scans when they come out.
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