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    Day 667 : Ain’t nobody cared

    But i want to know if it’s usable in the future so :

    How to make a short post and showing everything I want to. Meh.

    I will proceed just like the translator proceed, but the meaning of the text is not the issue here ! The legitimacy of the unknown -OCR is.

    This post isn’t mean to begin any translation project, yet.

    Please do not loose time by reading the entire texts , maybe just take simple sentences and compare the differents versions with the original.

    I’ve got the novel on 71 pages of japanese text in word format, we can easily say that the translation process is reduced by .. at least … 25% (Hell, it’s long to OCR stuff). If and only if my files are legit.

    Just imagine if the Hasegawa novels were in that format WANT1

    What I want to know is : Is the unknown-OCR legit ? I think it is, see for yourself :

    (DL : Found on the 4ch*n database about Kajishima, link to JPDDL.com)

    Context : From what i understand, it’s OVA2 : Here comes Jurai 2, Kajishima talks about Asuza visiting the household, right before the duel i guess.

    Hope it’s ok to show a page of Jurai.. Here the first page of the prologue of the first novel
    [hidden]http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/16/1429049372-p005.png" />[/hidden]

    JP Text OCR by ChaudSept

    プロ ローグ

    樹雷皇が柾木家を訪れてから一週間が過ぎた。

    厳密に言うと訪れるょうになって一週間が過ぎている。樹雷皇は娘である第一皇女阿重 霞の結婚候補者を連れて来ては理不尽な現象にょって追い返されるという作業を七回繰り 返しているから、何のことはない毎日やつて来ているのである。その度に阿重霞が「お父 様、私には、天地様が……」と懇願しても「その天地とやらが私の選んだ男に決闘で勝た なければ認めることは出来ん」と毎度の科白を言うもんだから、これまた毎度のことなが ら柾木天地は八回目の決闘をすることと相なるのであつた。

    観衆は全部で八人と一匹、これまた八回とも同じだ。

    樹雷皇、阿主沙。

    樹雷第一皇妃、船穂。

    樹雷第二皇妃、美砂樹。

    note-

    I used Abby, I can’t say that it is 100% accurate, it never got reviewed by anyone but me.

    ATLAS Translation –

    Prologue

    One week passed after Jurai [**] had visited the Masaki person.

    One [natte] week has passed visit [ruyo;u] strictly speaking. When the marriage candidate of the first princess [**] heavy haze who is the daughter is brought, Jurai [**] : to an unjust phenomenon ..repeat work that [yo;tte] is sent away seven times.., [Yatsute] comes every day. Ayeka : in every case. “Father, To me, Tenchi……” Even if you entreat”If it doesn’t defeat a man whom the Tenchi and I chose by the duel, it is not possible to admit. “Because usual department white was massaged ..saying., It duels the eighth, aspect [naruno], and MasakiTenchi is [atsuta] though it is usual this.

    Spectators are eight people and 1 in all, It is the same as this and eight times.

    Jurai [**], Azusa。

    Jurai the first [**hi], Funaho。

    Jurai the second [**hi], Misaki。

    Free Translation –

    Prologue

    After Jurai 皇 visits a/the Masaki house 1 week passed.

    Rigidly speaking becoming ょう that visits 1 week is passing. 《主語なし》As for Jurai 皇, there is not what, because it is repeating the work that is sent away to an unreasonable phenomenon ょって that I bring the marriage candidate of the 1st princess 阿 heavy mist who is a daughter 7 times it is coming every day and つて. Ayeka “, a/the father, me to そ at each time of….” with even if Tenchi entreats MasakiTenchi is あつた because it becomes the that phase that does the 8th duel though it also is the case of always, because it rubbed and says the words of always that it is not possible to admit if it does not win with duel ら “the Tenchi with and the man who I chose.

    The audience is the same as 8 times also 1 head, with 8 people all told.

    Jurai 皇, Azusa.

    The 1st Jurai 皇 consort, Funaho.

    The 2nd Jurai 皇 consort, Misaki.

    JP Text OCR by John Doe

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    　樹雷《じゅらい》皇《おう》が柾木《まさき》家《け》を訪《おとず》れてから一週間が過ぎた。

    　厳密《げんみつ》に言うと訪れるようになって一週間が過ぎている。樹雷皇は娘《むすめ》である第一｜皇女《おうじょ》阿重霞《あえか》の結婚《けっこん》候補《こうほ》者《しゃ》を連れて来ては理不尽《りふじん》な現象によって追い返されるという作業を七回｜繰《く》り返しているから、何のことはない毎日やって来ているのである。その度《たび》に阿重霞が「お父様、私には、天地《てんち》様が……」と懇願《こんがん》しても「その天地とやらが私の選んだ男に決闘《けっとう》で勝たなければ認《みと》めることは出来ん」と毎度の科白《せりふ》を言うもんだから、これまた毎度のことながら柾木天地は八回目の決闘をすることと相なるのであった。

    　観衆《かんしゅう》は全部で八人と一匹《いっぴき》、これまた八回とも同じだ。

    　樹雷皇、阿主沙《あずさ》。

    　樹雷第一｜皇妃《おうひ》、船穂《ふなほ》。

    　樹雷第二皇妃、美砂樹《みさき》。

    note-

    This OCR is surprising.

    First : The character between “《》 ” are the hiragana helping the japs for the pronunciation of the Kanji.

    Second : “｜” Indicates to which Kanji(s) the hiraganas apply.

    Third : “#” Indicates stuff like changing pages, or presence of image, titles…

    Fourth : We need to suppress all the 《signs》 to get a proper machine translation.

    Fifth : I’ve never succeed in finding this kanji 柾 (which means Masaki) with Abby.

    JP Text OCR by John Doe – Ready for Machine

    プロローグ

    樹雷皇が柾木家を訪れてから一週間が過ぎた。

    厳密に言うと訪れるようになって一週間が過ぎている。樹雷皇は娘である第一皇女阿重霞の結婚候補者を連れて来ては理不尽な現象によって追い返されるという作業を七回繰り返しているから、何のことはない毎日やって来ているのである。その度に阿重霞が「お父様、私には、天地様が……」と懇願しても「その天地とやらが私の選んだ男に決闘で勝たなければ認めることは出来ん」と毎度の科白を言うもんだから、これまた毎度のことながら柾木天地は八回目の決闘をすることと相なるのであった。

    観衆は全部で八人と一匹、これまた八回とも同じだ。

    樹雷皇、阿主沙。

    樹雷第一皇妃、船穂。

    樹雷第二皇妃、美砂樹。

    ATLAS Translation –

    Prologue

    One week passed after Jurai [**] had visited the Masaki person.

    Strictly speaking, one week has passed since it comes to visit. When the marriage candidate of the first princess Ayeka who is the daughter is brought, Jurai [**] : ..repeat work of being sent away seven times by an unjust phenomenon.., It comes every day. Ayeka : in every case. “Father, To me, Tenchi……” Even if you entreat”If it doesn’t defeat a man whom the Tenchi and I chose by the duel, it is not possible to admit. “Because usual department white was massaged ..saying., The aspect became it the eighth duel of MasakiTenchi though it was usual this.

    Spectators are eight people and 1 in all, It is the same as this and eight times.

    Jurai [**], Azusa。

    Jurai the first [**hi], Funaho。

    Jurai the second [**hi], Misaki。

    Free Translation –

    Prologue

    After Jurai 皇 visits a/the Masaki house 1 week passed.

    Rigidly speaking 1 week when comes to visit is passing. 《主語なし》As for Jurai 皇, there is not what, because it is repeating the work that is sent away by an unreasonable phenomenon that I bring the marriage candidate of the 1st princess Ayeka who is a daughter 7 times it is coming along every day. Ayeka “, a/the father, me to そ at each time of….” with even if Tenchi entreats MasakiTenchi became ら “the Tenchi with and the man who I chose the that phase that does the 8th duel though it also is the case of always, because it rubbed and says the words of always that it is not possible to admit if it does not win with duel.

    The audience is the same as 8 times also 1 head, with 8 people all told.

    Jurai 皇, Azusa.

    The 1st Jurai 皇 consort, Funaho.

    The 2nd Jurai 皇 consort, Misaki.

    ChaudSept
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    Ukinojo92 wrote:

    http://www.astronerdboy.com/tenchi/Images/Tenchi’s%20Son.jpg" />

    Think you can upgrade this one

    BOUM SIR

    http://orig13.deviantart.net/639c/f/2015/104/f/5/the_son_of_tenchi_and_masaki_jurai_by_chaudsept-d8ppbfg.jpg" />

    http://chaudsept.deviantart.com/art/The-Son-of-Tenchi-and-Masaki-Jurai-526901020?ga_submit_new=10%253A1429037257” class=”bbcode_url”>http://chaudsept.deviantart.com/art/The-Son-of-Tenchi-and-Masaki-Jurai-526901020?ga_submit_new=10%253A1429037257

    Opinion ?

    Actually it was harder than drawing Misaki, because the sketch you submitted was way more complex (clothes, accessories..), it was almost already finished.

    Also i tried to link the two character with some shadow relation.

    The choice of color is mostly according to my own point of view.

    So, who is the mother of that boy woooo1 ?

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    WisperG wrote:


    Like how? I know he doesn’t have any sons in IF, but I always assumed this kid that hangs out with Misaki was probably one of, if not the youngest of his kids. Tenchi could have simply had him years (or decades) later.

    True, it’s very possible that that story happens way after -IF-. If IF happens at all mmmm1

    I was confused by the fact that there are Tenchi’s children elsewhere. But at this point of the story, I think we can agree that the doujin needs a good translation to be discussed :|

    Apparently Tenchi and the girls are living on Jurai when Tenchi’s son meets Masaki.. Well, WTH ? Since when Tenchi would allow himself to quit earth ?

    Interesting though.

    ChaudSept
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    WisperG wrote:


    That would be Masaki, not Misaki.

    Ah ! Thanks !

    I looked Masaki Jurai up on google and yeah it’s her. Her story is explain on the tenchi wikia.. From what I translated in the doujin, the infos might be.. plausible.

    I think this doujin is a little contradictory with the -IF- ones though.

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    SnowQueen wrote:

    Could you make something in a signature style? Basically I’m selfishly ask if you make me something I can use as a signature? ^^ You can say no.

    Do you want specific things in it ?

    And I think I can manage a signature size alright woooo1

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    Ukinojo92 wrote:


    The girl is Misaki Jurai and the boy is Tenchi’s son, can’t find the name.

    Misaki from Kajishima’s mind ? Gosh i would like to learn more about it.

    Anyway challenge accepted fyeah1

    ChaudSept
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    Do you know who they are ?

    I know it comes from Omatsuri Zenjitsu no Yoru 21 Seiki-ban 1 but …

    ChaudSept
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    SnowQueen wrote:

    Nice work Chaud! Do you take request? : )

    Yes I do, but i can’t create from scratch. Very bad drawing skills here wtfisthis1 .

    Ukinojo92 wrote:

    That answers that question, the Misaki picture looks like a early rough drawing in a comic.

    Well spotted sir !

    I upgraded Kajishima’s drawing :

    http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/15/1428679670-066-07.jpg" />

    ChaudSept
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    Guess who ?

    http://orig04.deviantart.net/4ddc/f/2015/099/9/e/misaki_2_by_chaudsept-d8p3hlj.jpg" />

    Deviant’

    Ukinojo92 wrote:

    Nice, and for the Ryoko one, I don’t know I just wanted to see what you do with it.

    I found the huge ass picture without the text : http://www.zerochan.net/1585560#full” class=”bbcode_url”>http://www.zerochan.net/1585560#full

    I’ve got one or two ideas..

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    evilpii wrote:

    In the case that this is true, does this mean that OVA series 1 goes against Kajishima’s canon? Does that mean that OVA series 1 is not canon? If it is not, please define what canon is.

    I feel like I could use that thread to speak my mind about canon and non-canon, even if it’s a little off.

    The more I spent time here, the more I learn about the multi-verse, the multi-author issues, and mostly the multi-opinions around the subject.

    I don’t like the notion of canon, because it implies somewhat the “true story of Tenchi”, the real one, maybe the best one for some people.

    I like Kajishima’s timeline because I freakin love the character background from OVA1, hell, my love for Tenchi comes from OVA1. But surprise, Kajishima isn’t the only guy who made a sequel of OVA1; Okuda did, Hasegawa aswell. I don’t really think Kajishima should be called the true creator, all of his work should be called the “Kajishima’s continuity”, just like Negishi’s, or Hasegawa’s.

    Making reference to Kajishima’s timeline in this thread (including OVA2,3, GXP, WoG, Shin Tenchi Muyo novels, 101 facts) is just like talking about Tenchi Universe, it’s quite irrelevant, because it’s not in the same continuity.

    To me, there is just one diamond core : OVA1. And after that, a lot of continuities… Well just choose the one you prefer, and choose the one you are talking about. And we have to learn to don’t mix things up.

    The one thing I wonder is : Could we consider Hasegawa’s work as a sequel of OVA1, knowing that she rewrote it in her 2nd and 3rd novels ?

    End of the Off topic stuff.

    evilpii wrote:

    I theorize that Funaho was originally a consort, rather than a queen, and that Yosho was perhaps conceived or born out of wedlock. This would explain Misaki being addressed as “the Empress” in Hexagram. In this case, Yosho would not be a legitimate heir to the throne. Instead, Ayeka would be next in line. This would explain why a conflict would arise if Yosho stayed.

    I agree with that theory. If you think about it, it could be that the 3 authors created that, but Hasegawa didn’t like the 2 wife-fantasm of Kajishima, and decided to plot it differently. That could be why Funaho didn’t appear in Hexagram.

    But butts1

    evilpii wrote:

    Crazed and Nil corroborated that the subtitles agreed with Hasegawa’s novel. That is, this is the actual Japanese dialogue for the scene as Hasegawa wrote it.

    Thus, according to Hasegawa, Azusa made the law that the first wife would be of Jurai, and the second would be of another planet. Moreover, Hexagram of Love addresses Misaki as “the Empress of Jurai” without any modifier.

    A second wife really do exists, and Funaho happens to exist as well. Even though the mariage of Azusa and Funaho might be controversial, Funaho should be a queen along side with Misaki. At this point of the story, it doesn’t really makes sense that she isn’t on earth in Hexagram. I mean she is queen by law, even if the commoners hate it. Maybe we learn more about Azusa / Yosho / Funaho ‘s past in the other novels.. I would love to.

    Maybe Funaho is just busy and we will see her in another book , as the 2nd queen wth2

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