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  • Shounenbat
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    Just found out yesterday and had to come here to pay my respects. Such a loss!

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    Shounenbat
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    Well, I’m back on after a long break working on other stuff. I’m still translating 101 Secrets as well as working on my site meant to teach people Japanese using a lot of Tenchi and other media. So, no, I’m not long gone!

    My brother actually sent me this news. I have mixed feelings about it, mostly because I want to be excited and join the Tenchi gang on new adventures, and I don’t even mind Juraian politics. However, I want the whole harem aspect to take a backseat and just let the characters be themselves. The great thing about Tenchi is that there are amazing characters; they just need something to do besides fight over Tenchi, who is well on his way to fulfilling his destiny as Ultra Stud, the embodiment of Male Wish Fulfillment, at it is. I mean, the idea of the average guy getting the hottest girl, or girls if it’s a harem, is getting a bit old, and in time the girls often go the way of the Tenchi girls, who have been stripped of just about everything that makes them complex and interesting and has managed to turn even the eight-year-old into just another trophy on Tenchi’s mantle.

    However, I’m going to be optimistic. We might get more of a classic vibe, along with a grander idea of the Tenchi universe as a whole. We might see Tenchi dropped down a peg or two to make him both relatable and relatively human again, and we might see the other girls with their own stories and personas explored. I’m crossing my fingers and waiting patiently!

    Shounenbat
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    I had no idea that Kajishima is working solely on Tenchi stuff to the exclusion of any new projects! That’s almost obsessive, and I don’t mean it in a good way.

    I’m kind of odd in that I think the OAV series still has life left in it, even after that awful OAV 3! The characters and their current arrangement can still be fun and engaging, but not if it goes in the direction Kajishima wants it to.

    ChaudSept brought up the idea of animating the Hasegawa novels, which would be cool, too. I prefer the Okuda manga, but, really, it just goes to show that other authors have taken the OAV premises and creating fun and engaging stories with it.

    Basically, there are still directions this show can go besides Tenchi-makes-babies-with-every-woman-who-has-ever-lived.

    Shounenbat
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    Dagon123 wrote:

    Shounenbat wrote:


    Some of it will probably not meet the fandom’s standards, but surely some of it will. I mean, you’d have to try really hard to make nothing but duds from here on out![

    You say ” They’d have to try really hard to make duds from here on out”, They’ve been making duds for the last 10 years. It’s been a generation, there are more people who said that they “were” Tenchi fans, then there are active Tenchi fans now, and the phraseology is all over the place, but the important thing is they’re not here and they aren’t waiting anymore.

    Hiroshi Negishi didn’t recently leave AIC and its partners because Tenchi was heading in the right direction, Negishi leaving is symbolic of the fact that this show has no hope at ever being made for “Tenchi” fans ever again.

    The “creative” mind behind OVA4 aka Masaki Kajishima, said in the first paragraph of his latest doujin, that “Everyone loves Noike now, and Ryoko finally accepts her”

    Tenchi Muyo is dead.

    A show with the “Tenchi Muyo!” name will continue to be made in some capacity until AIC or Kajishima or both die and or new blood can come in and play with it and make their own story and timeline with Tenchi.

    But until that point comes, every show is going to be OVA3, again, and again, and again.

    …You just peed on all my optimism… (Sobs silently in a corner)

    In all seriousness, you’re probably right, as much as I hate to admit it. Kajishima really, really needs someone to reign him in. Left to his own devices, he manages to to turn everything he touches into a bizarre sexual fantasy of his, which really sucks.

    My vote probably doesn’t count, but instead of taking the OAV continuity on the fast-track to death, I would, personally speaking, like to see the manga animated. Something along those lines would be a great way to revive the series.

    Shounenbat
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    I want to hold off on judgement, but I’m just a little worried about this. I think a lot of it is because, while I think Kajishima is excellent at world-building and has done a fine job in the past, I don’t feel that he can write characters all that well. He really needs other people on his team to flesh out the characters, as they get too simplified under his sole command. It makes Tenchi feel more like a cheap, knock-off harem anime than the series that I always saw it as: namely, a wonderful story with harem aspects that I could overlook because the characters were so rich.

    Clearly, the Tenchi series is trying to make a comeback. There’s a new RPG game coming out (sounds like a dating game and is called Tenchi Muyo! Bride Profusion!), Ai! Tenchi Muyo has aired, there was talk of more Universe stuff, and now this. Perhaps any amount of successful Tenchi will get us new shows.

    Some of it will probably not meet the fandom’s standards, but surely some of it will. I mean, you’d have to try really hard to make nothing but duds from here on out!

    As for Noike, I dislike her being part of the household, but this is just because I can’t see how the character would fit in. When we got Mihoshi and Washu, they fit perfectly. They had a role to fulfill in the house and manage to blend into the general weirdness with ease. Noike doesn’t do this. We’ve already got the “sane” peace-maker character who holds the household together in Sasami, so we really don’t need Noike to function as a more mature Sasami. She has no place where she easily fits in, and since we already have Aeka, Sasami, and, you could argue, Yosho to represent Jurai and its interests, we still don’t need Noike. I just can’t see how she adds to the dynamic.

    If anything, she takes away from it! As I said, she seems to take over Sasami’s role in the group, and also seems to take over Ryoko’s at times as well. I think the conversation at the end of OAV 3 regarding Tenchi’s mother should have been reserved for Ryoko, who has been there from the beginning in Tenchi’s life, rather than Noike, who still feels like a political pawn being forced into the cast.

    Perhaps there’s a disconnect between American fans and Japanese fans, since I know that the Japanese tend to view the characters somewhat differently than Americans just because of differences in values, so maybe Noike is more accepted there (I haven’t actually asked about it yet)? Maybe we’ll grow to like Noike more if she’s written as a more normal character instead of as a Super Woman who absorbs all the best traits of the established cast and is only made vulnerable by her back story.

    Shounenbat
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    1. I love Tenchi Muyo.

    2. Tenchi Abridged led me here, and I love Tenchi Abridged.

    3. Tenchiboard loses my account sometimes…

    4. You guys are all great!

    5. Tenchicast is epic!

    Shounenbat
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    ChaudSept wrote:

    So saying that the shape behind Tokimi is different than the shape of Tsunami we see in at least ova2 seems a little bullshitty.

    That’s Kajishima for you!

    I actually went over that bit of dialogue a few times to make sure I was interpreting it correctly, since the shadow is still distinctly Tsunami as we know her after her assimilation with Sasami. I suppose, as Kajishima said, we didn’t see her face…

    Shounenbat
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    ChaudSept wrote:

    Meanwhile you get a smooth translation…

    In Ai Tenchi, Sasami appears to be something like 13 or 14. Since Tenchi go from 16/17 to 22 ! And Sasami was (like) a 8 yo in ova1 at least.

    Also gimme your name on Lang-8 wth2

    ハヴネス is my Lang-8 name. I don’t post often on there, since I do most of my practice on iTalki, but I’ve got lots of great penpals there!

    Shounenbat
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    JGZinv wrote:

    As with all things in the Muyo, source please?

    2Chan thread. I have it bookmarked on my other computer, so when I get back on it, I’ll post the link. I don’t know if it’s supposed to be part of a large AMA-style thread or not, but I have a hard time navigating that site.

    When I get back on, I’ll go through the interview again and strive for a more natural translation (some of the vocabulary tripped me up, and I didn’t have my dictionary with me blush1 ) and I’ll also post the link.

    Shounenbat
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    drillmaster wrote:

    I’m a little worried at the looks of this. It appears to be some kind of political struggle or a war council. I mean, I’d be happy to see Misaki and Funaho actually have a speaking part again in the OAV, but it does not bode well for how the last OAV was handled. The last thing we need is MORE attention away from the main cast.

    Not to mention, if this is legit, I should probably get around to watching GXP, although I’d rather not. I never could get into it, for some reason…

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