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Ukinojo92 wrote:
Is it Momo or Tenchi casting the shield? Obviously it is most likely Momo in a fear or subconscious response, but who is to say Tenchi did it without thinking and his key activated in response.
As I said in my last post, Tenchi could have generated the barrier, consciously or subconsciously, with or without the sword. The possibility is there, but
Ai Tenchiepisode 34 does leave it nebulous as to which was the instigator. Considering all the parallels between Tenchi and Momo, particularly in the final episode, I could accept either as the cause. Tenchismile Ukinojo92 wrote:In Ai, Tenchi is in more control, but my question is are people that have Jurai Royal Tree or Jurai power always in control all the time or in certain circumstances they can spontaneously react without meaning to?
I would agree that subconscious or reflex use of Juraian abilities is possible, particularly if said royal family member was untrained and unaware of what they possessed. My key example is Achika fromTMiL1. Seemingly, she was raised by her father and late mother without any knowledge of her extraterrestrial heritage. However, she starts manifesting abilities during her first encounter with Kain on the Tokyo Tower. First, she senses his presence approaching. 
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/achika1_zpsaa1f0c81.png " /> Then, she emits a concussive wave that shatters glass and sweeps many of the shards at Kain. Kain himself is caught off-guard and realizes at that moment that she is his target, not Tenchi. Moreover, Nobuyuki is just as surprised as Kain is, so he likely hasn’t seen this side of her before either.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/achika2_zpsec69d949.png " /> She creates a second concussive wave when she breaks free from Kain in subspace.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/achika3_zps630e28ea.png " /> Then, of course, there is her climactic transformation.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/achika4_zpse1b62841.png " /> All four of these occurrences precede Achika’s exchange of brain waves with Tenchi.
After said exchange, she creates the energy barrier against Kain as mentioned above and then picks up Tenchiken, transforming it into a naginata-like weapon. She then uses it to seriously wound, but not outright kill, Kain. Since she exchanged brain waves with Tenchi, I could concede that some of his knowledge of Juraian abilities could seep into her mind. However, such an explanation does not cover the four events in the images above.
So, which of these four events is conscious manipulation? Assuming Achika is untrained, one could liken her unto an unskilled person handed a sword and told to fight against someone (Kain) with far superior knowledge, skill, and experience. She’s fumbling with her weapon, doesn’t know what to do, and, if Tenchi’s epilogue has any truth to it, likely hurt herself in the process.
I would argue her sense of Kain’s presence was subconscious. She was scared, and the fear response does cause the senses to sharpen, to reach out for any information on the threat. One would think that for a Juraian, any empathic abilities would be sharpened as well, allowing her to feel Kain’s approach.
I would also argue her first concussive wave was subconscious. She stood up, fists clenched, ready to fight. Again, the fear response typically gives the body a choice: fight or flight. Adrenaline is also connected with feats of strength, mothers protecting their young and the like, tapping into wells of power usually inaccessible. I find it likely her choice to turn and face Kain could have ignited the pilot of whatever offensive abilities she possessed, giving that concussive wave.
However, while the second concussive wave may be subconscious, I don’t think it is. She is being held by Kain, watching Nobuyuki get thrown around like a ragdoll. She wants to go to him, free of this monster holding her. By this point, she has already used a concussive wave once, so perhaps like muscle memory, she remembered that feeling and replicated it to free herself.
On the other hand, the transformation I doubt is subconscious at all. She methodically turned to Kain and announced her intentions to do him harm. If my “muscle memory” theory is right, what Achika could have done was accessed whatever mental faculty to create that concussive wave and dived as deep as she could go. Again, referencing the sword analogy above, doing so might be like flailing with a sharp weapon without knowledge of the consequences. Doing this may well have hurt her, even shortened her lifespan as Tenchi theorizes in the epilogue.
Please keep in mind, all of this is speculation based upon the presentation in the film. Take it as you will.
Tenchismile Ukinojo92 wrote:Quote:the shielding used to defend Momo and Tenchi seems very similar to the Momo’s personal defence in episode 8.
I believe it is Momo channeling Jurai Power through her key and using it’s defense function,
My main problem with this theory is that Momo in episode 34 did not have her key yet. While Tenchi likely had Tenchiken with him, teenage Momo would not have known it was there, let alone how to use it. If Momo is generating the barrier in episode 34, she is not using a key to do it.I could accept that Tenchi created the barrier himself or through Tenchiken.
Tenchismile Ukinojo92 wrote:Yosho did something similar fighting Kagato in ep 5 of OVA 1.
I do not believe this is entirely true. Here is the image I believe you are referencing, where Katsuhito has a barrier shifting around him.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/yosho2_zpse9f1ee20.png " /> However, the design of that barrier is starkly similar to this image of Tenchi from OVA series 1 episode 6.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/tenchi1_zpsd7d94e28.png " /> Moreover, here is a panel from Okuda’s
All-New Tenchi Muyo!volume 6. 
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/yosho3_zps31563c9b.jpg " /> While Okuda makes it very clear what he intended, many have debated on what Katsuhito used to defend himself in OVA series 1 episode 5. The main theory is the one I usually defend, that Katsuhito used Tenchiken to access a Light Hawk Wing from the tree Funaho, as in Okuda’s manga. This is feasible since Ayeka has Tenchi use Tenchiken in the same way with Ryu-Oh in the very same episode. Moreover, the shape of a Light Hawk Wing is very distinctive in OVA series 1, and the barrier around Katsuhito is damned similar to Tenchi’s personal Light Hawk Wings.
However, there is precedent in
Universeepisode 23 for Katsuhito using only Juraian energy defend himself. 
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/yosho1_zps6cc5e189.png " /> Notice that the shape does not match a Light Hawk Wing, nor does it conform to Katsuhito’s barrier in OVA series 1 episode 5. While one could debate whether Katsuhito is generating the barrier himself or through Tenchiken, I believe few say a Light Hawk Wing is involved here.
However, the above image from
Universeof a Juraian barrier does seem more dome-like in shape, similar to Ayeka’s barriers, as well as the one Momo used in episode 8 of Ai Tenchi. Honestly, I would like to see a wide-angle shot of the barrier in episode 34 to make a more definitive assessment. Ukinojo92 wrote:That or Momo, Tenchi, and Yosho can do that themselves.
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There is precedent for a Juraian noble generating a barrier without a key, a tree, or likely a Light Hawk Wing.
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/achika1_zps6f853e02.png " /> In
TMiL1, Achika defended herself against Kain’s breath weapon before Tenchi, Ryoko, and Ayeka arrived. Tenchi still had the sword with him, and Ayeka had her tiara with her. Notably, Achika’s clothes and belongings were destroyed either by the transfer to subspace, breaking free from Kain, or by her transformation. She was nude before being wrapped in this celestial kimono, so she had nothing to use to defend herself except her own native abilities. Teenage Nobuyuki likely didn’t have any Juraian technology on him either, and was in too much pain from a broken leg and other likely injuries to do anything. Now, I have heard arguments that Achika’s transformation was a product of her using Light Hawk Wings, but I find this unlikely. As
TMiL1and TMiL2are both continuations of Universe, where Light Hawk Wings have never been mentioned or referenced before in its story, it would be strange storytelling to have them suddenly appear for one scene. Unless I see evidence to the contrary, I attribute Achika’s transformation to the Jurai Power, which is heavily referenced throughout Universeand its two movies. As such, a transformation like this could feasibly be achievable by any Juraian noble of sufficient power and ability. evilpii wrote:The-Kaiser wrote:Anyone else notice the GXP computer displays are running Star Trek TNG-Voy era style of display known as the LCARS ?
Actually, yes,
we havekiyonesmile1
Actually, the GP seem to have been using Star Fleet’s OS for a while. While I was checking out a reference Snow gave me inanother threadTenchi in Tokyo. This episode aired in 1997, 17 years before
Ai Tenchi. Nobuyuki wrote:evilpii wrote:However, I do know there are some frames of animation from
Tenchi in Tokyothat show Ayeka’s hair and teeth coming off, but it is “ wild takeLooney Tunes. I can’t find a screenshot at the moment, but I’ll keep looking. blush1
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/sirensbx/tenchi/PDVD_010.jpg " /> That’s the one.
mmhmm1 I also mixed up Ryoko’s teeth with Ayeka’s. Sorry about that.blush1 Thank you, Nobuyuki.Tenchismile By the way, would you happen to know what episode from which this scene is taken?SnowQueen wrote:Are you referring to I think its a comic where Ryoko reveals Ayeka’s hair is actually a wig? If not then there’s another example though I can’t find it anywhere online.
Sorry.Here’s said comic. I had to dig through the Wayback Machine to find it.
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http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p661/evilpii/Forum/oavcomic_vol1_ayekawig_zpsa4ccf06f.jpg " /> However, I do know there are some frames of animation from
Tenchi in Tokyothat show Ayeka’s hair and teeth coming off, but it is “ wild takeLooney Tunes. I can’t find a screenshot at the moment, but I’ll keep looking. blush1 Also, the marking on Ayeka’s leg is likely not a tattoo. Observe in Episode 42 that Ayeka the marking is clearly shown.
Note that the marking would descend down the outside of her right leg past her ankle and probably visible on her knee. However, after her bath in Episode 43, the marking is not visible at all.
There is a possibility that the camera angle just did not show the design, though one does wonder what that marking might be. Perhaps it is a skin-tone legging or hose of some kind?
