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  • wwwwhhhhoooo
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    I agree with Dagon for the most part on this one–it’s not because she’s from a spinoff that she’s not my fav character–but I do see your point Primo: the girls were very different (at least, their negative attributes were exaggerated) in Tokyo because: 1) reason for Tenchi to want to get out of the house 2) try and garner a bit of sympathy for Sakuya, & 3) as you mentioned, as a plant for a wonderful payoff in the plot at the end. Given this, it’s an interesting ‘what if’ (which we do have a thread for now, if this keeps going on in a direction too far off from discussion about Sakuya’s appeal or lack of) to consider the character Sakuya in a setting such as, say Universe (or ova).

    My personal opinion (using universe as example, due to Kiyone being present): if she were present, we would still have people against her or for her, but perhaps to a lesser degree. First of all, (Ryoko forgive me) Tenchi’s attraction to her in Tokyo is apparent; it’s there, whether anybody likes it or not. However, I feel this was enhanced because the planet’s aligned so to speak: the familiar cast is portrayed right from the get go as being excessively selfish, needy, possessive, rude, etc. (for reasons we’ve already touched on). If we’re dealing with Universe/ova girls, this factor would lessen to considerable degree, and Tenchi would likely (imo) have a bit more neutral stance towards Sakuya (as he does with Ayeka and Ryoko, he just can’t seem to choose one…thus ‘Tenchi Solution’ especially if we’re dealing with ova realm).

    Secondly (yet the primary reason behind my theory of her still retaining disdain from some and admiration from others) I don’t think she’s disliked because she’s ‘normal’ (though that may be a factor from some). It’s not because she can’t fly, or make force-fields, or is an alien/gp officer: it’s because she’s competition! Not to say that Kiyone/Tenchi pairing (obviously Universe Kiyone) wouldn’t be cute, but in reality in the series we just don’t see them really having a romantic interest in each other (even though they’re both shy/serious type, we see–in main series–no effort on Kiyone’s part, nor anything hinted at to suggest otherwise). Thus, hardcore Ryoko/Ayeka fans have no problem with Kiyone’s presence; same goes for Universe Mihoshi (she expresses romantic intent in ova, but she doesn’t really assert herself as competition, and the few times we do see it hinted at, it’s clear it ticks off Ryoko and Ayeka); same goes for Universe Washu (Washu is competition in ova, but…come on, it’s Washu! No one can hate her).

    As we’re all aware, in Tenchi fandom in general, (perfectly paralleling the series) who is predominantly behind the most intensive debates on ‘who gets Tenchi?’ or getting in youtube comment spats or trolling elsewhere (if it occurs at all)? It’s either Ryoko or Ayeka fans! If Sakuya was ‘as is’ in Universe/ova, we would have a dynamic of a fighting threesome instead of the classic dueling duo, because unlike the rest of the cast, her desire for Tenchi seems almost as strong as –if not equal to–Ryoko’s or Ayeka’s, and if you’re ‘Team Ryoko’ or ‘Team Ayeka’ or ‘Team [not Sakuya]’ well, ‘we can’t have that now, can we?’

    :fight: <-- picture that, but add in Sakuya 😆

    As it is now, she (and similar figures like Haruna) is unfortunately a scapegoat, and bashing her has become common ground for Ryoko and Ayeka fans (the enemy of my enemy is my friend…cue ‘Night at the Carnival’ comparison) and it may likely remain this way, for some, for eternity; but with places like here where we can have intelligent, reasonable criticism and analyzing of characters such as this one, that may change someday.

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    wwwwhhhhoooo
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    Love these Z-man! I’ll keep you updated, cuz I think I’d definitely be interested at some point.

    How about these for ideas? Black T shirt, just TenchiForum logo on the front, then on the reverse, reads “You Know You’re A Tenchi Fan When…” & there’s a list of our best “Tenchi Fan Thread-isms” running down the back.

    Here’s another one: How about front just says “MUFFINS!” & also a picture of a muffin. Then on the reverse, says like “You’d have to be there…” or something, &/or a logo of TenchiForum.

    *Of course, none of these would be ‘for sale’ as the Forum has not, does not & will not make money off anything related to Tenchi, but as is in Japan, ‘mutual gift giving’ may be an option 😉

    wwwwhhhhoooo
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    [BBvideo 425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKCJU-wEc3A[/BBvideo]

    Very cool! I’m not very familiar with Anthrax but I share others’ opinions that this song fits Ryoko quite well (I’d sooner picture her listening to thrash metal than something from, say Cyndi Lauper lol).

    Good source material: clean clips, no subtitles (some ‘amateur’ mistakes I’ve seen that used to be more common with amv-making due to difficulty in finding source material) all around flows well.

    Thank you for sharing! :Tenchismile:

    wwwwhhhhoooo
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    OMG so much news to take in! I’m going to have some serious dvd shopping to do in the not-too-distant future

    gwahplz :Tenchismile:

    wwwwhhhhoooo
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    Thanks Kiyoka! These are great!

    *anyone know what, if anything, this particular pic is portraying? I get the feeling it’s from a movie or something.

    wwwwhhhhoooo
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    mitsuki lover wrote:

    Doncha mean Midwestern?

    If it were Midwestern, I’d be going

    fyeahplz

    funny, where ‘midwest’ begins & ends depends on who you ask

    wwwwhhhhoooo
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    Superb Z man! & I agree chuck, with the likes of Slim, JG & others talented with such things, remastering of old Tenchi/Toonami promos will probably be an underground fad for a long time.

    Also, very astute & interesting observations regarding Ayeka’s/Ryoko’s uniform skirt length, chuck, never thought about it like that (like ML, I too thought it a bit odd how, if one of them were to have the shorter skirt, you’d guess it would be Ryoko right off the bat)

    wwwwhhhhoooo
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    Wow. Fantastic! With your abilities, making your own manga is certainly an attainable feat for you.

    wish I could do that…I’m lousy with computers though…maybe someday

    wwwwhhhhoooo
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    amgplz awwww I wanna be in on a panel so badly! Sadly, I doubt I’ll be able to make it. Money would be an issue for me, as would the fact I will have classes that Friday and following Monday (& it’s a long ways away for me). I guess I’ll say, to play it safe, don’t count on me being in, but if there’s a possibility of me getting in on this, I’ll update asap.
    wwwwhhhhoooo
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    Wow awesome! Looks like you made quite a haul! What’s the Tenchi book you got there? AH! And you got to meet Tiffany Grant (she’s great isn’t she? loves the fans & going to cons) getting the autograph & pic with her is a-mazing!!! Sure am glad to hear you had fun dude and thanks for sharing with us!
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